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Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:04 am to Mad_Mardigan
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No offense but I just don't see how BB is ranked last in this bunch. Obviously everyone has their opinion but if I were to rank them it would be.
It just wasn't anything that great to me. It's villians were meh and it was simply an origin story that we've been told a hundred times already, like Spiderman. We don't need to be told how he became Batman or Spiderman. We all already know how. We just want to see them actually be Batman and Spiderman, which is why the second movie in both of those trilogies is better than the first.
If you ask me, I was never a big fan of the first Iron Man movie, but it gets all the praise. I still liked it, but i won't watch it again if it's on tv. I'd prefer both Thor movies to Iron Man personally. And i thought Iron Man 2 was the best one, which is generally regarded as the worst one.
The First Avenger is the movie that got me hooked on to the MCU, not Iron Man.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:04 am to Freauxzen
1.Winter Soldier(9/10)
2.Batman Begins(9/10)
3.Civil War(7.5/10)
4.The Dark Knight(7.5/10)
5.First Avenger(7/10)
6.The Dark Knight Rises(4/10)
2.Batman Begins(9/10)
3.Civil War(7.5/10)
4.The Dark Knight(7.5/10)
5.First Avenger(7/10)
6.The Dark Knight Rises(4/10)
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 11:10 am
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:07 am to TeddyPadillac
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it was simply an origin story that we've been told a hundred times already,
You mean once back in 1989 and it wasn't even the proper origin story?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:07 am to Freauxzen
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Why? They have almost nothing in common besides both being comic book movies?
I'm surprised it took so many posts for somebody to bring this up. I feel like these aren't remotely comparable. The Dark Knight trilogy is a true self-contained trilogy that tells one story from beginning to end. Captain America is part of a larger universe, the story isn't self-contained, and it clearly isn't even close to over after the 3rd movie. I haven't seen Civil War yet, but is it really even a true Captain America movie? It seems like it's a mini Avengers
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:09 am to RLDSC FAN
Both are fantastic. The question is:
Do you want your trilogy to start with a bang and end with a semi-thud or start with a semi-thud and end with a bang?
Do you want your trilogy to start with a bang and end with a semi-thud or start with a semi-thud and end with a bang?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:17 am to RLDSC FAN
if the russos directed the first avenger, then it would likely have been miles better than what it was.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:18 am to theunknownknight
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Warner Brothers still hasn't recovered
Who can ever recover from a film making over $1 billion worldwide?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:20 am to TeddyPadillac
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it was simply an origin story that we've been told a hundred times already
Actually....Batman Begins was the first live action film to tell Batman's origin story. He was already active and fighting crime at the beginning of Batman '89. So you're wrong.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:50 am to TeddyPadillac
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6. Batman Begins
What in the world?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:54 am to RollTide1987
Let me preface this by saying I enjoyed all the movies:
TDK trilogy for me.
I know I'll be in the distinct minority here, but the Winter Soldier character and story arc are less than compelling to me. As a villain, anyone that can be taken out simply by the local SWAT police commander telling one of his snipers, "See that guy over there with the greasy hair and metal arm? Shoot him in the head" just isn't that threatening a foe to uphold a dramatic narrative. Plus, the ultimate paragon of honor, integrity and duty in the MCU (Captain America) compromises his ideals for this character? Personally, I'll be glad when the whole WS arc & character disappear. He doesn't have any particular trait as a villain (motive, ideology, superpower, or even a cool costume)that makes him interesting. He's the biggest weakness (to me) in the Cap series whereas Batman has the greatest villain in comics history.
TDK trilogy for me.
I know I'll be in the distinct minority here, but the Winter Soldier character and story arc are less than compelling to me. As a villain, anyone that can be taken out simply by the local SWAT police commander telling one of his snipers, "See that guy over there with the greasy hair and metal arm? Shoot him in the head" just isn't that threatening a foe to uphold a dramatic narrative. Plus, the ultimate paragon of honor, integrity and duty in the MCU (Captain America) compromises his ideals for this character? Personally, I'll be glad when the whole WS arc & character disappear. He doesn't have any particular trait as a villain (motive, ideology, superpower, or even a cool costume)that makes him interesting. He's the biggest weakness (to me) in the Cap series whereas Batman has the greatest villain in comics history.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:57 am to The Egg
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if the russos directed the first avenger, then it would likely have been miles better than what it was.
Johnston was the perfect director for the WWII Captain America. They did the right thing by bringing in the guy who'd done The Rocketeer to show Cap's WWII origin.
The Russos built on a great foundation.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:57 am to The Egg
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if the russos directed the first avenger, then it would likely have been miles better than what it was.
Johnston was the perfect director for the WWII Captain America. They did the right thing by bringing in the guy who'd done The Rocketeer to show Cap's WWII origin.
The Russos built on a great foundation.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 12:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
This one is tough, required some thought.
I'll give the edge to Dark Knight:
DK > WS (really close though)
CW > DKR (wider gap)
BB >>>> FA (difference maker, this one ain't even close)
That said, both trilogies are among the best in comic movies
I'll give the edge to Dark Knight:
DK > WS (really close though)
CW > DKR (wider gap)
BB >>>> FA (difference maker, this one ain't even close)
That said, both trilogies are among the best in comic movies
Posted on 5/13/16 at 12:49 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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As a villain, anyone that can be taken out simply by the local SWAT police commander telling one of his snipers, "See that guy over there with the greasy hair and metal arm? Shoot him in the head" just isn't that threatening a foe to uphold a dramatic narrative.
You mean like The Joker, Bane (who was literally killed like that), Ra's al Ghul, Talia al Ghul (who was literally killed like that), and Scarecrow in ALL the Batman Trilogy? THIS is why you don't like the Captain America trilogy as much even though it is WAY worse in Batman?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 12:58 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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I know I'll be in the distinct minority here, but the Winter Soldier character and story arc are less than compelling to me. As a villain, anyone that can be taken out simply by the local SWAT police commander telling one of his snipers, "See that guy over there with the greasy hair and metal arm? Shoot him in the head" just isn't that threatening a foe to uphold a dramatic narrative. Plus, the ultimate paragon of honor, integrity and duty in the MCU (Captain America) compromises his ideals for this character? Personally, I'll be glad when the whole WS arc & character disappear. He doesn't have any particular trait as a villain (motive, ideology, superpower, or even a cool costume)that makes him interesting. He's the biggest weakness (to me) in the Cap series
You do know you can use the "shoot him"
argument with any of Batman's rouges, right? The Winter Soldier didn't attack places that had snipers all of the place. He attacks people in their most vulnerable position. Unless they're near his level, someone isn't going to get a head shoot 80 yards away without him noticing.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:01 pm to theunknownknight
Batman had subdued all of those before they either died or were apprehended by the police.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:03 pm to RollTide1987
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Batman had subdued all of those before they either died or were apprehended by the police.
So?
They can all still be killed by guns which was his main complaint against the Winter Soldier.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:14 pm to theunknownknight
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They can all still be killed by guns which was his main complaint against the Winter Soldier.
I could be wrong but I think he was complaining about how easily he was taken out in the end.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:14 pm to theunknownknight
Most of those other villians have something (motive, ideology, superpower - something) that hooks your interest. The WS is just a guy who's kinda strong with nothing else to recommend him. That, added to an extreme vulnerability to normal humans just doesn't make him much of a dramatic foil.
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