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re: The Dark Knight Trilogy VS Captain America Trilogy - Which do you prefer?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:20 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:20 pm to theunknownknight
They can all still be killed by guns which was his main complaint against the Winter Soldier.
no, it wasn't really.
no, it wasn't really.
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:55 pm to RollTide1987
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Actually....Batman Begins was the first live action film to tell Batman's origin story. He was already active and fighting crime at the beginning of Batman '89. So you're wrong.
I wasn't meaning in the sense of movies, just that everyone knows how Bruce Wayne became Batman. His parents are murdered blah blah blah I'm Batman.
Uncle Ben is killed, Peter is bit by a radioactive spider, Spiderman.
Everyone knows this already, and those are the two biggest comic book heroes in the world. We want to see them as the hero, not how they became the hero. At least that's my opinion.
I'm not saying Batman Begins sucked or anything. I just prefer it the least out of those 6 movies, and that's not taking anything away from it. I still enjoy it and watch it when it's on tv.
like I said earlier, there's no wrong answer. Both trilogies were great, and all of the movies are well liked by most.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:55 pm to RollTide1987
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Actually....Batman Begins was the first live action film to tell Batman's origin story. He was already active and fighting crime at the beginning of Batman '89. So you're wrong.
I wasn't meaning in the sense of movies, just that everyone knows how Bruce Wayne became Batman. His parents are murdered blah blah blah I'm Batman.
Uncle Ben is killed, Peter is bit by a radioactive spider, Spiderman.
Everyone knows this already, and those are the two biggest comic book heroes in the world. We want to see them as the hero, not how they became the hero. At least that's my opinion.
I'm not saying Batman Begins sucked or anything. I just prefer it the least out of those 6 movies, and that's not taking anything away from it. I still enjoy it and watch it when it's on tv.
like I said earlier, there's no wrong answer. Both trilogies were great, and all of the movies are well liked by most.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
This is tough. It kind of depends on how you look at it to be honest.
Simply looking at the 3 films, I'd say you have to give the nod to DK mainly b/c you pretty much are required to see several other Marvel films to fully understand what is going on in CA3. At the very least Avengers, Ultron, and Iron Man 2 should probably be seen to get enough context for Tony's motivations, his relationship to his father, a bit more on Steve's feelings for Peggy, and instances of Steve and Tony butting heads.
However, if we are talking which series has the best overall payoff in pure entertainment value? I have to say CA wins hands down. The Nolan Batman films can be a little too heavy and brooding for me and I never much cared for the Rachael Dawes storyline (regardless of the actress). Also in favor of Cap is that WS and CW actually made me like TFA much more than I originally did to the point that I will stop and watch it now when its on TV.
Simply looking at the 3 films, I'd say you have to give the nod to DK mainly b/c you pretty much are required to see several other Marvel films to fully understand what is going on in CA3. At the very least Avengers, Ultron, and Iron Man 2 should probably be seen to get enough context for Tony's motivations, his relationship to his father, a bit more on Steve's feelings for Peggy, and instances of Steve and Tony butting heads.
However, if we are talking which series has the best overall payoff in pure entertainment value? I have to say CA wins hands down. The Nolan Batman films can be a little too heavy and brooding for me and I never much cared for the Rachael Dawes storyline (regardless of the actress). Also in favor of Cap is that WS and CW actually made me like TFA much more than I originally did to the point that I will stop and watch it now when its on TV.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:05 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I wasn't meaning in the sense of movies, just that everyone knows how Bruce Wayne became Batman.
So you knew that Batman was trained by Ra's Al Ghul and his League of Shadows? I sure didn't. But then again I don't read comic books. I had also never heard of Spider-Man's origins before the Sam Raimi movies. Everything I know about superheroes I have learned from the movies or from Wikipedia.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
That's not really true, the general public knows his parents were murdered and hell because of 89 movie many thought by the Joker.
The story of how Batman really came to be had not been told.
The story of how Batman really came to be had not been told.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:14 pm to RollTide1987
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So you knew that Batman was trained by Ra's Al Ghul and his League of Shadows? I sure didn't. But then again I don't read comic books.
Obviously, because Batman's role in the League of Assassins/Shadows was retconned in way later in his history, as in, this wasn't Batman's official origin story until the 90's.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:25 pm to BilJ
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The story of how Batman really came to be had not been told.
You're right. And like I said, I still enjoyed the movie. I'm just nitpicking and stating that I prefer the movie after the origin movie over the origin movie. That goes for Captain America, Iron Man, and Spiderman as well, for me.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:57 pm to Freauxzen
quote:I agree with that, although in retrospect TDK isn't as good as it's been built up to be. It IS a pretty solid movie, but I think if you compare it to the current run of Marvel movies, it becomes pretty average (which is not to say it's bad).
BTW, I love BB and TDK, great movies. My disdain for TDKR is because it ruins an otherwise fantastic series. That movie blows.
One takeaway from BvS- give me a full-length Batfleck movie with the action the way Snyder presented it, and I would say it surpasses any of the Nolan films.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:59 pm to RLDSC FAN
First avenger was so terrible that we shouldn't even consider CA as a trilogy yet
Posted on 5/13/16 at 3:09 pm to jeff5891
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First avenger was so terrible that we shouldn't even consider CA as a trilogy yet
The First Avenger was horrible, so bad that it disqualifies the CA "trilogy" as being better than TDK. Yes, TDKR is bad but it at least had memorable characters and solid acting, and Batman Begins/The Dark Knight are so good in their own right.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 3:10 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:Haven't seen Civil War just yet.
Most of those other villians have something (motive, ideology, superpower - something) that hooks your interest. The WS is just a guy who's kinda strong with nothing else to recommend him. That, added to an extreme vulnerability to normal humans just doesn't make him much of a dramatic foil.
Winter Soldier was a good villain, if you take the context of the film.
Captain America is clearly a step or 2 better than the SHIELD strike team led by Rumlow, which I took as the equivalent of a SEAL team (that's the way it was presented). I actually liked Rumlow's team in the early part of the movie.
And as we saw, Cap was at first the acknowledged leader that the team had great respect for, and then he was able to take them all out hand-to-hand in an elevator.
Winter Soldier is an unknown, a physical match for Cap, with no moral compass... which makes him the anti-Cap.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 3:15 pm to RLDSC FAN
Is there reason to think this was the last Captain America movie? I don't think it will only be a trilogy with the present incarnation.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 3:17 pm to molsusports
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Is there reason to think this was the last Captain America movie?
I think Evans is done after the Infinity War films.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 3:17 pm to south bama tiger
quote:have to disagree here. Bane was almost laughably bad to try to watch and listen to. Alfred crying was a bad decision to me.
Yes, TDKR is bad but it at least had memorable characters and solid acting,
Talia was an afterthought as far as the movie goes.
As far as acting, I'd take Tommy Lee Jones and Hugo Weaving over the TDKR cast.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 5:02 pm to molsusports
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Is there reason to think this was the last Captain America movie? I don't think it will only be a trilogy with the present incarnation.
There's currently no plans for Cap 4. I would guess if Civil War hits something like $1.3 billion, we might see the studio push.
They may be so arrogant, however, that they believe anyone can get them those numbers, and they'll just keep building characters up and then letting them go. Honestly, I'd probably prefer that. I want Cap to get some closure.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 5:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I think Evans is done after the Infinity War films.
This came out during the early press tours for Civil War:
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I think it’s almost like high school. You’re kind of always looking ahead, about when you’ll graduate, but then when graduation day arrives you kind of don’t want to leave. I AM gonna try and focus on directing a bit more, but by no means am I done acting. And if they’d have me back, yeah, I’d probably consider it.
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 6:59 pm to RLDSC FAN
First off, Civil War may be considered part of the CA trilogy but lets get real, it would be more accurately titled Avengers: Civil War. Really hard to picture this as a CA movie, but even if that's the way it is, Batman is the better trilogy.
Also, I can only assume the people who listed BB 6th or even considered TFA close to it were merely trolling. TFA was not a good movie, and that's being kind.
Also, I can only assume the people who listed BB 6th or even considered TFA close to it were merely trolling. TFA was not a good movie, and that's being kind.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
The First Avenger is highly underrated..
Regardless,the Cap trilogy is better by a length mainly because TDKR falls flat...
Regardless,the Cap trilogy is better by a length mainly because TDKR falls flat...
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:10 pm to Jcorye1
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Captain America has the worst film of the six.
Batman probably has the best film of the six.
That being said, I think Winter Soldier and Civil War put together outpace Batman Begins and TDK, so I'll go with Captain America. It's tough to ignore that CA is getting better every movie, where TDK trilogy kind of ended on a low note (imho).
This is where I'm at as well.
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