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re: The Boys S5
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:48 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:48 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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he came to the realization that was going to outlive every person he ever loved and it rightfully so fricked him up.
Why give it to HL. He didn’t love HL. Keep it and give it to someone you actually care about.
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:55 pm to BOSCEAUX
That ending sucked. I’m also convinced these showrunners had no idea what the frick they were doing the last couple of seasons. The whole Gen V tie in that they tried to build up meant zero, zilch, nada.
And yeah the whole macgruber turn for homelander was forced and lame. It was hilarious in macgruber, not here. I will say him attempting to fly was funny as shite and reminded me of this:
The first season of this show was ELITE and I enjoyed the next 2 seasons a lot but man this show fell off a cliff hard. So many different supe stories they could’ve made a thing too. And I still can’t believe that was the final scene for soldier boy the episode before. LAME. And the Deep’s death was terrible too. I was expecting about 20 great whites to be tossing him up in the air like a volleyball for 10-15 seconds with limbs going everywhere
maybe a dolphin flipping up and punting his head back to shore
The only good part about that finale was Butcher killing HL like cocomo said. Really had high hopes for this season after it started so strong.
And yeah the whole macgruber turn for homelander was forced and lame. It was hilarious in macgruber, not here. I will say him attempting to fly was funny as shite and reminded me of this:
The first season of this show was ELITE and I enjoyed the next 2 seasons a lot but man this show fell off a cliff hard. So many different supe stories they could’ve made a thing too. And I still can’t believe that was the final scene for soldier boy the episode before. LAME. And the Deep’s death was terrible too. I was expecting about 20 great whites to be tossing him up in the air like a volleyball for 10-15 seconds with limbs going everywhere
maybe a dolphin flipping up and punting his head back to shore The only good part about that finale was Butcher killing HL like cocomo said. Really had high hopes for this season after it started so strong.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:07 pm to UnluckyTiger
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The first season of this show was ELITE and I enjoyed the next 2 seasons a lot but man this show fell off a cliff hard.
Homelander went from menacing and backing it up to deluded and making idle threats. They really should have had him completely twist off and start killing everyone before he met his end.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:15 pm to BOSCEAUX
quote:because they both loved Clara and "it's what Clara would have wanted" as dumb as it sounds that's why. HL is SB's last connection to Clara in a way.
Why give it to HL. He didn’t love HL. Keep it and give it to someone you actually care about.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:09 pm to Byron Bojangles III
It's this decade's "Martha".
Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:27 pm to BOSCEAUX
I read up on the comic story with Noir and would’ve preferred that much more. I heard the show actually did a lot of things better than the comic but the overall arc of the comic I feel would’ve been a much better story and made a lot more sense. And stormfront should’ve been a dude and been the main bad guy for at least a season and a half. Speaking of, you spend all that time hyping up stormfront and soldier boy alluding to a potential reunion this season and nada. W t f! And Jack from Jupiter should’ve been in the show too. Just so many misses on where to take the story.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:50 pm to Bard
I love how the V1 ended up meaning jack fricking shite. A shamelessly meaningless mcguffin just to give everyone something to do for a few episodes
Homelander lasers Kimiko in half in the camp at the beginning of this season but his lasers dont do shite in the oval office
He flies to space and back in 5 seconds but cant fly out the oval office
Homelander lasers Kimiko in half in the camp at the beginning of this season but his lasers dont do shite in the oval office
He flies to space and back in 5 seconds but cant fly out the oval office
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 5/21/26 at 5:14 pm to CocomoLSU
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I thought HL's turn into MacGruber, offering to suck Butcher's dick and eat his shite on live television, happened a little too quickly. I get what they were trying to do there, it just seemed forced.
I agree. This dude was a psychotic murdering machine for his entire adult life. He loses his powers and in less than five minutes, he's a slobbering wuss begging for his life. Seems really forced.
Also, I'm not sure why Homelander kept Hughie, Frenchy, and MM alive at the prison camp. I'm sure as bait for Butcher and Starlight. But why did he need all three? If he killed Frenchy, there would be little chance that Butcher gets the virus or the soldier boy blast in Komiko. HL was shown to kill so many people without really thinking about it. Seems like he would have killed those three.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 5:24 pm to Dingeaux
That finale was terrible.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 6:18 pm to Carson123987
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Homelander lasers Kimiko in half in the camp at the beginning of this season but his lasers dont do shite in the oval office
I took that as her powers had grown due to the experiments they had done on her.
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He flies to space and back in 5 seconds but cant fly out the oval office
Agreed. That's the problem with material where people have fantastic powers, you have to have consistent limits or else the parts where you need them to not be as powerful feel forced.
See also: Jessica Jones Season 1 where she had trouble prying a bar from a wall.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 9:18 pm to LewDawg
Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:49 am to hg
To dogpile on shitty things they did with the finale, let's talk about The Deep.
This is probably one of the worst swings-and-misses in the whole show.
The Deep is a fragile narcissist, constantly seeking approval to buttress against his gnawing insecurities. With humans. Throughout the series he is constantly trying to prove himself to other humans (seeking approval from those he considers his betters while also trying to present himself as already being better than they), but he almost always deals with the various aquatic life as if he and they are equals. At times during the series, he was capable of serious reflection but instead of letting that help build the character for an eventual arc the writers decided to destroy any progress such introspection created.
Even in the finale they could have made him a FAR MORE interesting character by:
1. Having him defeating his fear of the threats of the fish and saving the drowning guy.
2. Confronting the fish. I mean... the whole gist was that the fish blamed him for the pipeline blowing up but it was Noir who did it and he killed Noir for it. There's a whole treasure trove of introspection there to dig into as he comes to the realization that maybe he doesn't really belong with humans and that the fish have always had his best interests at heart. At this point he pointedly questions if being around humans too much isn't making him a bad person. The fish, trying to be helpful and supportive are just a bit too much so he needs to be alone to think. He ends up eventually at the White House, where things proceed similarly to how they turned out up to Annie taking him away.
3. The fight on the beach with Annie. It's a tough fight but he slowly begins overpowering her, Annie is still trying to get through to him. He's desperate to be seen as worthy, to be seen as good. He's ranting more as the fight continues and his upper hand grows culminating in something like:
Deep (has Annie pressed against a cliff, choking her): "It should have been me! *I* should be the next leader of The Seven! ME! I've done everything he's ever asked of me! Instead of turning it over to me he's completely disbanding it!"
Annie: "It's because you never mattered to him, no one matters to him."
Deep throws her across the beach, her impact causes a small crater or maybe she lands in the one they created when she brought The Deep out there. She's on her back, extremely vulnerable and barely able to move. As The Deep moves angrily toward her he picks up a huge rock, lifting it over his head with the obvious intent of bashing Annie's head in with it.
Deep (as he rares bac): "I'm a good person!"
Annie (weakly): "So good you molested me?"
The Deep hesitates Annie's words remind him of his earlier contemplation about being around humans too much is making him into a bad person.
Deep (tosses the rock away, and in a resigned voice that's really to himself): "I hate what you all do to me. I'm done."
The Deep goes off into the ocean, never to be seen again.
Instead, we get a weak CGI'd scene of utterly misplaced vengeance by the fishes.
This is probably one of the worst swings-and-misses in the whole show.
The Deep is a fragile narcissist, constantly seeking approval to buttress against his gnawing insecurities. With humans. Throughout the series he is constantly trying to prove himself to other humans (seeking approval from those he considers his betters while also trying to present himself as already being better than they), but he almost always deals with the various aquatic life as if he and they are equals. At times during the series, he was capable of serious reflection but instead of letting that help build the character for an eventual arc the writers decided to destroy any progress such introspection created.
Even in the finale they could have made him a FAR MORE interesting character by:
1. Having him defeating his fear of the threats of the fish and saving the drowning guy.
2. Confronting the fish. I mean... the whole gist was that the fish blamed him for the pipeline blowing up but it was Noir who did it and he killed Noir for it. There's a whole treasure trove of introspection there to dig into as he comes to the realization that maybe he doesn't really belong with humans and that the fish have always had his best interests at heart. At this point he pointedly questions if being around humans too much isn't making him a bad person. The fish, trying to be helpful and supportive are just a bit too much so he needs to be alone to think. He ends up eventually at the White House, where things proceed similarly to how they turned out up to Annie taking him away.
3. The fight on the beach with Annie. It's a tough fight but he slowly begins overpowering her, Annie is still trying to get through to him. He's desperate to be seen as worthy, to be seen as good. He's ranting more as the fight continues and his upper hand grows culminating in something like:
Deep (has Annie pressed against a cliff, choking her): "It should have been me! *I* should be the next leader of The Seven! ME! I've done everything he's ever asked of me! Instead of turning it over to me he's completely disbanding it!"
Annie: "It's because you never mattered to him, no one matters to him."
Deep throws her across the beach, her impact causes a small crater or maybe she lands in the one they created when she brought The Deep out there. She's on her back, extremely vulnerable and barely able to move. As The Deep moves angrily toward her he picks up a huge rock, lifting it over his head with the obvious intent of bashing Annie's head in with it.
Deep (as he rares bac): "I'm a good person!"
Annie (weakly): "So good you molested me?"
The Deep hesitates Annie's words remind him of his earlier contemplation about being around humans too much is making him into a bad person.
Deep (tosses the rock away, and in a resigned voice that's really to himself): "I hate what you all do to me. I'm done."
The Deep goes off into the ocean, never to be seen again.
Instead, we get a weak CGI'd scene of utterly misplaced vengeance by the fishes.
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 9:52 am
Posted on 5/22/26 at 12:50 pm to LewDawg
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That finale was terrible.
The more they drifted from the source material the worse it got. Very GoT esque.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:43 pm to Bard
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To dogpile on shitty things they did with the finale, let's talk about The Deep.
What in the OMLandshark is going on with that post…
Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:01 pm to Dingeaux
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I agree. This dude was a psychotic murdering machine for his entire adult life. He loses his powers and in less than five minutes, he's a slobbering wuss begging for his life. Seems really forced.
I dunno, I think someone who has had powers all of their life would absolutely freak the frick out in that moment if they lost them. Especially when they've been prancing around as "I'm God" for several weeks now. I thought his meltdown was about right.
Carson:
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Homelander lasers Kimiko in half in the camp at the beginning of this season but his lasers dont do shite in the oval office
This I could at least explain away as she gained powers through the radiation and that likely slowed down his ability to stop her.
Force Ghost Frenchie was stupid.
quote:
He flies to space and back in 5 seconds but cant fly out the oval office
This I had more of an issue with.
Bard:
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To dogpile on shitty things they did with the finale, let's talk about The Deep
For the life of me I can't understand why Annie would've taken him NEAR frickING WATER to begin with. I get that the writing was like "we need to get him near water for the fish assault" but it was just so telegraphed.
Some other thoughts:
- Not buying that Starlight wouldn't have followed Hughie when he ran out of the house after Butcher.
- It would've been much, much better with Solider Boy taking Homelander's powers. I would've liked to have seen Kimiko try, it not work, and SB have to show up to finish him off.
- We talked about Maeve all fricking season and nada.
- We had a WHOLE arse spinoff on the Gen V kids and they're there as the Canuck Uber? Really? Literally no fight whatsoever out of them? That was just insanely wasted opportunity to incorporate them (all season long). I would've rather saw shite with them versus multiple episodes of chasing after V1.
- Sister Sage deserved to die. In the worst way possible. Her getting to walk off into the sunset was some bullshite.
Was it the worst finale I've ever seen? No. There were parts that were decent (mostly action scenes and whatever Ashley gets up to with her creepy head twin). But overall it was very meh.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
I found myself fast forwarding through the rest of the episode after homelander got killed. frick me that was bad. Not even sure what butcher did with the virus and honestly don't care. That show sucked major arse the last couple of seasons.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:23 pm to nerd guy
Yeah i lost interest real quick after Homelander died. I get why it happened and how, but I would have rathered the show end with him kicking their arse and in power smiling to us as the screen goes black and ends.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:23 pm to ColonelAngus
Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:47 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Not even sure what butcher did with the virus and honestly don't care.
Same here. Didn't he put it in whatever water supply was going to the sprinklers in the White House? Won't it eventually get released anyway?
Posted on 5/22/26 at 3:09 pm to parrotdr
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Won't it eventually get released anyway?
Yeah this was one plot hole of the many. Can’t say exactly what constitutes releasing the virus but seems like that process should have done it. As careful as they were being with it seems even a drop spilling would have caused some harm.
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