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re: The Bear season 3 - spoilers ok

Posted on 7/3/24 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 2:07 pm to
I think some of you guys are over reacting. It was a solid B of a season. There were moments on par with moments from the other seasons, it just didn't keep the same intensity the whole season.

That being said, I think it set the stage for a really good next season. I think Syd is going to stay at the Bear, and Bear is going to realize he needs to fix his shite to make things work. I think the conversation at the dinner table and the confrontation afterwards will be the set up for him shaking off the past and going in a different direction.
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:10 am to
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I think some of you guys are over reacting. It was a solid B of a season


I have been wanting to watch this show and finally took the plunge. Family was away for the Holiday weekend and I binged all 3 seasons - 1 season a day. Yes, I think I now have anxiety.

While watching season 3, I was thinking how this show can end and how many more seasons it can have because you cannot keep this pace, and I recalled an article a few years ago about how Netflix series are by design 3-4 seasons. Tell a story, finish the arc, and move in before it gets too stale. Season 3 and 4 of The Bear were shot consecutively, and 4 is done shooting now. In that context, I think this season did its job, yes it’s the weaker of the 3, but the character development really was good and we got an entire season of a new restaurant struggling to open. I do think season 4 will be the last one as they finish the arc of opening a new place, how it will end should be entertaining to watch.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:29 am to
Where else you going. 3 hours is perfect for this kind of experience.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:33 am to
Sydney can be annoying sometimes, but she isn't overly

She is a good #2 in the show
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:34 am to
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because she's a black female.
wait. . .why do you think that is the reason?

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Sydney is the best character on the show.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:55 am to
Just got through episode 2. Was going great, until

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Take us there, Bear

Yes Chef





Suddenly got some dust in my eyes. . .so maybe I missed some of the impact of the scene.

Also helps that Marcus is my favorite character. Reminds me of my friend from a group home I was in as a child. Jesse Crippen, Kid never talked. When he did talk, it was slow and laconic. People thought him stupid

But he was always learning and working hard, just quietly acing everything in school. Kid finally opened up to me, after we roomed together for a year. May have been the most incredibly intelligent person I have ever known. Like Reed Richards level shite. Found out he was battling schizoaffective something-or-other, and his medication slowed his speech.

He didn't give a corn of a shite that people thought him slow, and always used that to his advantage.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 12:06 pm
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68831 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:07 am to
They’re still looking for that first star
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 8:23 am to
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I don't remember if the big cans or the little cans have the money in them


I don't understand why there is money in the cans. Did they ever explain that? If so, I either missed it or don't remember it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130305 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:06 am to
I still liked this season. I thought episode 1 was actually fantastic.

It had its moments.

I do agree that ultimately it went almost nowhere, and they need to do something about that.

Also they made it clear that every single main character is evolving...except Carmy. He is the one that needs to evolve, still.


Also:

I think they are setting up some version of a Massimo Bottura story.

Review is mixed but mostly positive about Carmy. The restaurant does enough to stay open but its still not great

Carmy eventually gains clarity and peace through himself and through Claire, a prominent critic comes in by chance and gives it a glowing review and they explode.
Posted by jumbo
Franklin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:48 am to
Season 2 was better overall but I did enjoy S3.

Jamie Lee Curtis was absolutely amazing in the hospital episode.


I really want a Matter Of Faks spinoff.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 3:18 pm to
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Well, I just finished season 3. Apparently I'm in the minority. I just did not enjoy this season nearly as much as the first two. Actually that's not accurate. I didn't enjoy this season at all.

The major plot points, both new and old, just didn't have much substantive progression. The background gaps that were filled in - which seems to be the entire point of the season - were kind of trivial details to me that didn't warrant so much time. That god-awful 15 minute conversation between chefs sitting around the table waxing poetic about their spiritual connection to food was hard to sit through. It was basically 10 episodes of meandering to me.

I'll still watch the next season, but I won't be looking out for it.



I agree in the sense that I didn't enjoy it as much as Season 2. I thought it was, at times, a lot of filler that didn't advance the story much.

Things I really liked:

- Vedder Save it for Later ode to Chicago intro (loved it actually)
- Carmy background episode and the subsequent inclusions of that history throughout
- The segments with Boulud and Keller
- Richie's arc

Things I didn't like:

- Sydney basically doing nothing but fretting and looking uncomfortable all season
- I agree with you on that long segment of the Ever funeral, it was pretty blah. I don't know if they shoot those scenes in the actual Ever dining room, but on the show they just look really bleak and boring and that makes that scene drag even more IMO
- As noted above, the general slow pace. I like a slow burn, but it seemed like 2 episodes of content stretched out, albeit in a really well-made package

Mixed:

- The birth episode was very relatable and genuine and just well-made TV. In isolation it's really good. I just question whether an entire episode to this mini storyline makes sense, especially in context of a season where the major plot lines just didn't advance much. If I thought this was going 10 seasons I'd be all about it, but it's not so I'm mixed on it.

- Same with Tina. Her storyline is probably a little more pertinent to the show, but I wonder if she'll ever really feature enough in remaining seasons to really make it that worthwhile. But it was good and I like her character.

- The cousins are funny but they got so much screen time - once again - in a season that didn't tell us very much.

I love the show, it's must-watch TV for me and I don't think this season killed any of that. It just felt like a placeholder season.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:27 pm to
This was a bad season. I read they filmed 17 episodes and whittled it down to 10 which makes sense because everything either felt rushed or drawn out. There was no cohesion to this season at all.

It had some moments but overall this was not a good season. No episode left me needing to watch the next one immediately.
Posted by The Ramp
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:52 am to
I can't decide if I hate or love Sydney. Same with Selena Gomez's voice.
Posted by The Ramp
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:52 am to
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Byron Bojangles III


*race card played*
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
5237 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:15 am to
We have only final episode left. Bummed to read that it might not be great as people seem to dislike the funeral for Ever,, which I assume will be majority of episode.

I agree with a lot of the takes above. It’s still one of my favorite current show, but this season was slow with a lot of stuff that kind of felt like filler (birth Ice Chips episode, though it was also a great episode of TV). Also agree that I love the Faks, but they’re getting a lot of screen time. Disliked the drawn out conflict/stress between Carm and Claire. The whole Carm tortured and depressed and such is inherent to his character, I know, but he needs some redeeming qualities as well besides just being a driven, tortured perfectionist who is a pain in everyone’s arse.


I also loved Boulud and Keller being featured. Overall, I like the season, but it was weaker than previous seasons.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 9:16 am
Posted by cuddlefish
Member since Jun 2024
209 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:21 am to
I think the show may be an AI project. Carmey's encounter with evil Jeff Winger at the end of the last episode was distractingly recycled and just so lacking, it didn't hit at all. Tina's episode was like instructing an AI to tie the episode together with a repetitive sequence drawing from "Groundhog Day" and "Requiem For A Dream". The Fak family are the inane sidekicks, who you just want to STFU for two seconds, like so many of the other characters in this show, and BTW, no one gives a rat's arse about "hauntings". The finale's "last supper" was heavy on some of the most uninteresting dialog ever spoken. This could go on a lot longer, but I'll end it with saying that if I never see Carmey meticulously arrange another blade of grass on a plate like he's hand-building a CPU, it'll be too soon.

FWIW, and I don't know what this says, but "The Menu" is one of the best movies I've seen in the last few years. I also loved "Chef", which interestingly enough, features Oliver Platt pulling strings in a different way.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 9:23 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130305 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:24 am to
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I can't decide if I hate or love Sydney.


I really don't like her at all.

She has such an inflated sense of self. She was a complete nobody that came to work at a sandwich shop because of Carmy. She has not worked at the places Carmy has. She has not put in the hours of torture.

Yet she thinks she is his equal and is frustrated that she isn't considered it immediately.

She had some improvements in S2 but I didn't see them in S3.

I also found the stuff with the offer from Shapiro to her to be totally not believable. She is, again, a complete nobody.

Chicago is filled with very accomplished CDC's at big time places that he could choose from and he goes with her? Not really believable.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
20219 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:53 am to
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Yet she thinks she is his equal and is frustrated that she isn't considered it immediately.


Does she tho? It seems to me its just normal frustration when your boss shits on you, very similar to Carmen and his evil coach/chef. I think the entire idea is the parallel between the two situations.

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I also found the stuff with the offer from Shapiro to her to be totally not believable. She is, again, a complete nobody.


This I agree with, it would never happen like this.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6202 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:11 am to
It's also odd that Shapiro wants to start his own restaurant and then completely step away and let Sydney run it.

He himself appears to just be a staff chef (maybe he;s the CDC? I cant remember), who other chefs who worked at Ever tend to make fun of on occasion (hinting that he's a lesser chef??")

He then wants to hire another chef who is a "lesser chef" to run his new restaurant in a struggling economy post covid where restaurants are failing left and right?

The whole idea doesn't really make sense.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87381 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:16 pm to
If there was some build up with Shapiro trying to snipe Carmy and basically hire away his talent because he doesn't have the ability to spot it himself - ok maybe I get the storyline.

But otherwise I agree, and there wasn't really any context for it. The show hasn't really established that anyone in the public or restaurant community would know who she is or think particularly highly of her (as evidenced by Carmy getting all the praise/fault).

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