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re: Spin off: Who is the greatest screen actor of all time
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:00 pm to tigger1
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:00 pm to tigger1
It's hard not to laugh when you see Muni's overacting. He may have been dedicated, but he's terrible by today's standards.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 12:05 pm
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:16 pm to Midget Death Squad
If we’re including actresses, how could you leave out Meryl Streep?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:48 pm to HoboDickCheese
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3: Al Pacino
i love me some Al Pacino, i really do. But he is really one note and no where near a top 10 discussion.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:00 pm to HoboDickCheese
Somewhat related...
I recently did a rewatch of Big Love and man oh man, Bill Paxton was a horrible actor.
I recently did a rewatch of Big Love and man oh man, Bill Paxton was a horrible actor.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:08 pm to HoboDickCheese
I would say Jimmy Stewart. But that is strictly my opinion.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:16 pm to Buck Magnum
The Duke- John Wayne
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:19 pm to HueyLongJr
You do understand that is how people talked in the 20's and 30's in the circles he is portraying?
Now go watch the other movies from other eras and how the speaking roles are far different.
Now go watch the other movies from other eras and how the speaking roles are far different.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:43 pm to tigger1
It Happened One Night was two years later. Gable and Colbert are not an overacting buffoons like Muni. Muni's wikipedia cites numerous people complaining about his overacting. He must have been good on stage, where the overacting is needed to project.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:48 pm to tigger1
You make an important point. When I'm watching the really old-time 'classic' period films, the speaking, the comportment, the outward expressions always remind me of my long-gone grandparents and their friends/peers. It's more broad, more declarative, more outward-based.
The comportment of later generations (and naturally, the actors representing them) is more inward-centric, emotive, and heart-on-the-sleeve. There's a pregnant drama in the performances. More emphasis on psychological underpinnings.
Different worlds, in a way. Old-timers would balk at all the angsty turmoil, and find it unseemly for adult men or women. Younger folks look at the old performances and find them cartoonish and two-dimensional or wooden, and thus lacking in impact.
Makes it a bit hard to evaluate them together using the same playbook. Which is why I never even try.
The comportment of later generations (and naturally, the actors representing them) is more inward-centric, emotive, and heart-on-the-sleeve. There's a pregnant drama in the performances. More emphasis on psychological underpinnings.
Different worlds, in a way. Old-timers would balk at all the angsty turmoil, and find it unseemly for adult men or women. Younger folks look at the old performances and find them cartoonish and two-dimensional or wooden, and thus lacking in impact.
Makes it a bit hard to evaluate them together using the same playbook. Which is why I never even try.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:25 pm to HoboDickCheese
DeNiro is better than Pacino
Posted on 5/27/25 at 4:14 pm to Samso
No love for Jack Nicholson? From IMDB
Jack Nicholson, an American actor, producer, director and screenwriter, is a three-time Academy Award winner and twelve-time nominee. Nicholson is also notable for being one of two actors - the other being Michael Caine - who have received an Oscar nomination in every decade from the '60s through the '00s.
Oscars: 3 (Tied for 1st All-Time)
Oscar Nominations: 12 (*All-Time Record*)
BAFTA Awards: 4 (Tied for 2nd All-Time)
BAFTA Nominations: 8 (Tied for 3rd All-Time)
Golden Globes: 6 (*All-Time Movie Record*)
Golden Globe Nominations: 17 (2nd All-Time)
Jack Nicholson, an American actor, producer, director and screenwriter, is a three-time Academy Award winner and twelve-time nominee. Nicholson is also notable for being one of two actors - the other being Michael Caine - who have received an Oscar nomination in every decade from the '60s through the '00s.
Oscars: 3 (Tied for 1st All-Time)
Oscar Nominations: 12 (*All-Time Record*)
BAFTA Awards: 4 (Tied for 2nd All-Time)
BAFTA Nominations: 8 (Tied for 3rd All-Time)
Golden Globes: 6 (*All-Time Movie Record*)
Golden Globe Nominations: 17 (2nd All-Time)
Posted on 5/27/25 at 4:24 pm to Aeolian Vocalion
Aeolian Vocalion here is another one I like to tell people about....
Tombstone vs Wyatt Earp
Val Kilmore is using a Virginian accent in Tombstone
Dennis Quaid is using a Georgian accent in Wyatt Earp
Doc Holiday is from Georgia and would have a Georgian accent.
When I was growing up you could easily tell where they were from because of their accent, TV has brought standard English as a norm, we are fast losing the accents.
In 1983 in Kansas, I had to translate the orders of my two friends from Mississippi as the girl from Kansas could not understand their English.
Tombstone vs Wyatt Earp
Val Kilmore is using a Virginian accent in Tombstone
Dennis Quaid is using a Georgian accent in Wyatt Earp
Doc Holiday is from Georgia and would have a Georgian accent.
When I was growing up you could easily tell where they were from because of their accent, TV has brought standard English as a norm, we are fast losing the accents.
In 1983 in Kansas, I had to translate the orders of my two friends from Mississippi as the girl from Kansas could not understand their English.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:15 pm to HoboDickCheese
PACINO
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:20 pm to HoboDickCheese
Need to add Jack Nicholson
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Rober Duvall
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Rober Duvall
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:41 pm to HoboDickCheese
I think Robin Williams is definitely an honorable mention at the very least.
Val Kilmer is in my personal top 10 too.
Val Kilmer is in my personal top 10 too.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:52 pm to HoboDickCheese
Hackman or PSH
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:14 pm to HueyLongJr
quote:
It's hard not to laugh when you see Muni's overacting. He may have been dedicated, but he's terrible by today's standards.
If you want to talk about somebody way ahead of his time in dumping the stage acting and acting naturally...Mickey Rooney. He wasn't in great movies but he was a great actor.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:25 pm to LSUDonMCO
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Duke- John Wayne
Wayne and Chuck Heston are the two best "screen actors" because nobody could command the screen like either of them.
For more modern audiences, Nicholson and Mel Gibson in their primes both had it. Gibson was just a charisma machine and Jack was nothing like anyone else you're ever going to seen.
Peak Paul Newman is up there, too. He was magnetic on screen in Cool Hand Luke.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:35 pm to HoboDickCheese
Henry Fonda
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:23 pm to Diseasefreeforall
He was the Pope of Greenwich Village
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