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re: S4: the Bob Lazar story
Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:20 am to TigerReich
Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:20 am to TigerReich
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Bob Lazar
He was a guest of Art Bell several times on Coast to Coast way back in the day.
I will give this a watch.
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:52 am to RUFshreve
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I'll wait.
Here he is saying the craft he worked on was 35 feet in diameter.
He now claims it's 52 feet, and you can look that up anywhere.
Also, the drawings he's done of the 'sports model' he claims to have worked on, the drawing he sold to the Tester Model company (you know, because he's never made money off of this) are based on (confirmed by Lazar) the photos of this guy
Billy Meier
quote:
Meier's photographs and films are claimed by him to show alien spacecraft floating above the Swiss countryside.[16] He calls the alleged spaceships "beamships" from Plejaren. According to Meier, the Plejaren gave him permission to photograph and film their beamships so that he could produce evidence of their extraterrestrial visitations. Some of Meier's photos are claimed by him to show prehistoric Earth scenes, extraterrestrials, and celestial objects from an alleged non-Earthly vantage point. Meier's claims are widely characterized as fraudulent by scientists, skeptics, and most ufologists, who say that his photographs and films are hoaxes.[2][17][4][5][7][6][18][19] In interviews with author Gary Kinder, Meier admitted to using models to recreate scenes after his wife showed photos of incomplete models he thought he had destroyed by burning.[20] During a 2017 art exhibit about conspiracies, many of Meier's photographs were shown. Photography curator Gordon MacDonald commented on examinations from the 1970s that the photos weren't doctored saying "Just because photographs are real – ie real images made with a real camera – doesn't mean they are of what the person says they're of."
Oops! I only included the part about the 'beamships' because it underscores how absurd this is and how funny it is that some of you monkeys actually bought it. Probably bought the Tester model too.
Let me know if you want more. We can talk about Bob's bullshite educational background, his bogus claims about his employment history, his inconsistent claims about how the alien engines work, etc.
We can also talk about his first wife, a Hell's Angels biker chick 12 years older than him who was convicted of being an accessory to murder, or his second wife, who he married while he was still married to his first wife, who conveniently killed herself in 1986, 2 days after the second marriage.
Or his divorce from his second wife (he's on #3) after he was convicted in 1990 of felony pandering, for operating the aforementioned illegal brothel in NV with his homicidal, aging biker chick first wife. That's right. Bob is a convicted felon.
Let me know, because the more I look, the funnier it gets.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:25 am to blueboy
Try sticking to the relevant facts and not the character assassination nonsense if that’s possible.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:36 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:It's not nonsense if it completely destroys his credibility.
character assassination nonsense
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:49 am to blueboy
I’ve heard the name Bob Lazar a bit in recent years and watched part of a Rogan interview once. Other than that, I don’t know much about all of his claims or details.
Some of your criticisms may indeed be valid but my first instinct is to dismiss your opinions because of the extreme negative energy. All of those laughing emojis belittling what has become sort of mainstream opinion.
Some of your criticisms may indeed be valid but my first instinct is to dismiss your opinions because of the extreme negative energy. All of those laughing emojis belittling what has become sort of mainstream opinion.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:54 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Right, because those are things a super serious scientific mind would do.
Did you ignore the part about the ship dimensions and the fake UFO photo that Bob said were legit pictures of alien spacecraft?
Here's another funny thing I found.
Did you ignore the part about the ship dimensions and the fake UFO photo that Bob said were legit pictures of alien spacecraft?
Here's another funny thing I found.
quote:Robert Bigelow Tells Bob Lazar Stories
Robert Bigelow—a billionaire aerospace entrepreneur who funded UFO research—reportedly heard a rustling sound while on a night-spotting trip with Lazar near the alleged "S4" site in 1990. Bigelow allegedly spotted Lazar releasing a helium-filled mylar balloon to mimic a "strange glowing object" in the sky.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:03 am to litenin
quote:Far from it. He's even called a hoaxer on his own Wiki page.
belittling what has become sort of mainstream opinion.
I used the laugh emojis because I think it's funny.
Bob became famous in a era when people couldn't fact check each other as easily as they can now. There was no authority to appeal to if you doubted him, and he could shrug off government and academic denials as part of "THEIR" conspiracy to discredit him.
Now, in 2026, we can pretty easily debunk his claims and/or show inconsistencies in his stories over time. But, as is the case with flat earthers and moon truthers, people who really really want to believe him will jump through whatever mental hoops they have to in order to preserve their belief.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 10:19 am
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:33 am to FnTigers
For you, I guess.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:22 am to litenin
quote:
Some of your criticisms may indeed be valid but my first instinct is to dismiss your opinions because of the extreme negative energy. All of those laughing emojis belittling what has become sort of mainstream opinion.
First time reading one of blueboy's posts?
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 11:30 am
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:23 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
Try sticking to the relevant facts and not the character assassination nonsense if that’s possible.
No one can verify his stories. Character is a freaking huge issue if you are deciding if you can believe someone.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:49 am to wareaglepete
I don’t deny that. But it’s been 40 years or so and of all those grifting this topic he’s one doing it the least. I’m skeptical, not cynical.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:54 am to TigerReich
It would be awesome if it was free to watch
Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:19 pm to TulsaSooner78
quote:quote:
Bob Lazar
He was a guest of Art Bell several times on Coast to Coast way back in the day.
That's where I first heard the name. One of Art's guest hosts at the time, George Knapp (who is still a reporter for local TV in Las Vegas), was the guy who "broke" Lazar's story, if I remember correctly.
I was on the fence about whether Lazar was full of shite or not until I saw him on JRE, and saw that he had a handler there with him to help him keep his story straight. Lazar kept turning to that guy every time a question would be asked to wait and see how the guy would tell him to answer.
That was the last straw for me...but I'll still watch this, so maybe not.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:45 pm to Oswald
He’s 67, so it’s not like he’s in his 90’s trying to recall events from 60 years ago. I get it, details matter & 1989 wasn’t yesterday, but yeah… maybe he’s facing some cognitive decline or something. Dunno.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:23 pm to Oswald
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That's where I first heard the name.
One of my favorite bands is Clutch. They have a song called "Escape from the Prison Planet" and one of the lyrics is
Red Rover
Bob Lazar's coming over
So honey clear the airstrip
And light up that stove
I had no idea who Lazar was until I looked it up. This was in the mid 90s.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:22 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:I been on this guy since he came on Art Bell way back in the 90's. Its a crazy story but I dont know ....too fantastical.
From day 1 I was very skeptical of Lazar and his story.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:28 pm to Crow Pie
The flip side is, if true, how would the real story alter all that much? Gov setting dead ends and erasing his official past to muddy up his story… or he simply lied?
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:44 pm to TigerReich
Back up a minute, forget about Bob Lazar, and think about the bigger picture.
You do know/realize, unless you still live in the Swamp with no electricity, that the US has Back Engineered Unidentified Alien Craft and other mysterious, unexplainable tech. And even if you're just being obstinate, argumentative you would still have to admit that the US, Russia, etc. WOULD absolutely back engineer alien craft if/when they could.
So whether it was Bob Lazar or someone else, there have been & were many individuals that had access and did work on these programs! The Bob Lazar "story" is thus NOT far fetched or "unbelievable" at all.
Still want to argue, pick apart?
If so, you now must somehow defend/claim that NONE of the sightings, claims, witnesses, crashed/recovered crafts, tech, evidence, etc. ......in other words...... ALL of the mountains of credible reports, documents, photos/videos, evidence, testimonies......ALL of it is utter B.S.!?!
Go
You do know/realize, unless you still live in the Swamp with no electricity, that the US has Back Engineered Unidentified Alien Craft and other mysterious, unexplainable tech. And even if you're just being obstinate, argumentative you would still have to admit that the US, Russia, etc. WOULD absolutely back engineer alien craft if/when they could.
So whether it was Bob Lazar or someone else, there have been & were many individuals that had access and did work on these programs! The Bob Lazar "story" is thus NOT far fetched or "unbelievable" at all.
Still want to argue, pick apart?
If so, you now must somehow defend/claim that NONE of the sightings, claims, witnesses, crashed/recovered crafts, tech, evidence, etc. ......in other words...... ALL of the mountains of credible reports, documents, photos/videos, evidence, testimonies......ALL of it is utter B.S.!?!
Go
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:34 am to KidCreole
quote:
crashed/recovered crafts
There are no recovered crashes, or ANY physical evidence at all.
quote:
ALL of the mountains of credible reports, documents, photos/videos, evidence, testimonies
Please share.
Except testimony.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:18 am to KidCreole
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If so, you now must somehow defend/claim that NONE of the sightings, claims, witnesses, crashed/recovered crafts, tech, evidence, etc. ......in other words...... ALL of the mountains of credible reports, documents, photos/videos, evidence, testimonies......ALL of it is utter B.S.!?!
The problem when you try to have reasonable, rational debates about topics like this is that you have people who want to believe that there are aliens out there, or Bigfoot, or the Loch Ness Monster, or whatever, and so instead of adopting a truly open-minded approach they take the position of, "I am going to assume that *insert thing here* exists until someone proves to me that it doesn't," which is a self-deluding mindset. No one can prove that something doesn't exist - that isn't logically possible. The correct approach to anyone making a claim that something exists - especially if it is something outlandish - is to say, "I'm willing to carefully and fairly consider any evidence that you present to support your statement, but the burden of proof is on you to show that what you are claiming to exist really does exist."
I say that to say this: your approach here is logically backwards. Instead of telling skepticists, "You have to prove that every bit of circumstantial evidence or hearsay testimony is false," you should be telling those making outlandish claims, "You need to offer solid, incontrovertible proof to back up what you are saying before I'm going to be willing to believe you." If I tell you that Jesus drove a '69 Mustang into my yard, cut a bunch of donuts, and then vanished in a cloud of smoke, I may sound very credible when I tell you about it, and I may be able to show you tire tracks in my yard and a blurry picture of a guy in a muscle car, but chances are you probably still aren't going to believe me, because unusual claims should require very solid proof.
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