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re: Rian “Star Wars Ruiner” Johnson Responds To Audience Critics, Explains His Philosophy
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:04 am to TheFolker
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:04 am to TheFolker
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi is the quintessential Star Wars movie. It embraces everything in the franchise that came before while taking big risks to push the story into new and unexpected places. While there are a few subplots that weigh it down in the middle, everything ultimately works toward delivering an absolutely stunning sequence of events that make its emotionally rich ending a possibility. It’s dramatic, it’s exciting, it’s heartfelt, it’s heartbreaking, and it’s funnier than any Star Wars movie has any right to be. It doesn’t answer every lingering fan question but it darn well delivers on the ones it chooses to address, ending things on a satisfying note even though there’s one more chapter in this trilogy. And on top of all that, the final scene bucks all Star Wars trends, yet it works because it’s reflective of what makes the saga as a whole so special.
IGN loved it.
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:25 am to CarRamrod
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my wife had to keep hitting me cause i was saying it out loud. The prank call, when luke tossed the light saber. His brush off the shoulder, him "dying" after his force use. those were the main times i literally said it out loud and she was hitting me to shut up.
All those moments plus space Leia were like knives into the gut of true Star Wars fans.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:30 am to CarRamrod
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when luke tossed the light saber
Oh you mean his "laser sword"? How about when he milked some fricking thing with 4 tits as it just sat on some rocks.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:33 am to Saskwatch
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Oh you mean his "light sword"? How about when he milked some fricking thing with 4 tits as it just sat on some rocks.
Johnson just completely whiffed on the tone of Star Wars, and it’s baffling to me. If you want to go a completely different direction with Star Wars...DONT USE THE MAIN ESTABLISHED CHARACTERS.
You can’t take someone who acted a certain way, then make them bipolarly switch personalities. The ending of TFA rolls into the beginning of TLJ...yet the characters act completely different for no reason other than Rian Johnson/Disney wanted them to.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:35 am to Saskwatch
quote:Given the location, was that thing supposed to be aquatic, or at least semi aquatic?
he milked some fricking thing
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:37 am to The Pirate King
This comes down to the movie studio being fricking retarded. The movie studio decided it would be a good idea to make a trilogy.
They hired JJ Abrams (a competent director) and Lawrence Kasdan (OT screen writer very familiar with Star Wars lore) to direct and write the first movie - The Force Awakens.
In that movie they set up a bunch of story lines and cliff hangers and new characters to be fleshed out as the trilogy continues. And they spend two years via advertising and interviews hyping up those story lines and all the cool new stuff in the trilogy.
The movie studio then hired a completely different writer and director for the second movie and gave him complete autonomy to do whatever he wanted with no regard for the first movie or any over arching story lines in the trilogy.
That director then quite literally from the first scene to the last scene of the movie systematically decided to throw away every single plot line from the first movie of the trilogy because the director didn't feel like following them and further he decided to just say frick it and not pay attention to any established Star Wars universe lore because he didn't give a shite about the fans or the established IP. He's directly quoted as confirming these in interviews.
They hired JJ Abrams (a competent director) and Lawrence Kasdan (OT screen writer very familiar with Star Wars lore) to direct and write the first movie - The Force Awakens.
In that movie they set up a bunch of story lines and cliff hangers and new characters to be fleshed out as the trilogy continues. And they spend two years via advertising and interviews hyping up those story lines and all the cool new stuff in the trilogy.
The movie studio then hired a completely different writer and director for the second movie and gave him complete autonomy to do whatever he wanted with no regard for the first movie or any over arching story lines in the trilogy.
That director then quite literally from the first scene to the last scene of the movie systematically decided to throw away every single plot line from the first movie of the trilogy because the director didn't feel like following them and further he decided to just say frick it and not pay attention to any established Star Wars universe lore because he didn't give a shite about the fans or the established IP. He's directly quoted as confirming these in interviews.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:40 am to Breesus
Rian Johnson is obviously a big Star Trek fan and was pissed at JJ for completely ignoring the tone and soul of Trek in his reboot and decided to take his revenge on JJ's beloved Star Wars. 
When interviewing prospective writers and directors for this movie, the first question JJ probably should have asked is "So...what did you think of The Force Awakens?" Rian obviously thought it was total shite.
When interviewing prospective writers and directors for this movie, the first question JJ probably should have asked is "So...what did you think of The Force Awakens?" Rian obviously thought it was total shite.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:52 am to CBandits82
quote:IGN gave Mass Effect 3 a 9.5/10.
IGN loved it.
Their opinion is meaningless.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:54 am to Scruffy
great point Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:54 am to CBandits82
"It's like someone shot John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison all in one night. That's how I feel. Mark David Chapman had a machine gun."
-Mike Stoklasa on The Last Jedi
-Mike Stoklasa on The Last Jedi
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:58 am to OMLandshark
I love the quote just because he purposely left out poor Ringo.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:00 pm to CBandits82
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why do the critics love this movie?
Even fanboy sites like IGN love it.
Its crazy how big the critic-fan chasm is for this one.
The critic response confuses me greatly. I don't believe in big conspiracies, but outside of the "destruction of childhood" complaints, which are emotional therefore illogical and inconsequential to the actual quality of the film, the movie is actually a bad movie.
There are numerous wastes of characters, bad subplots, poor writing, ill placed humor, terrible editing and consistency issues across the film, multiple deus ex machinas and bad out of character decisions. It has a lot of problem exterior to emotional ones.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:02 pm to OMLandshark
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"It's like someone shot John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison all in one night. That's how I feel. Mark David Chapman had a machine gun."
-Mike Stoklasa on The Last Jedi
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:07 pm to DelU249
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The funniest part about all of this is that I agree with so many people with whom I rarely if ever agree which tells me it’s a bad fricking movie
Dilly dilly!
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:55 pm to elprez00
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I mean did Rian even watch Star Wars?
That is the big question. I don't think he should have wrote a story in line with the fans demands. But, he should have wrote one in line with Star Wars.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:10 pm to CBandits82
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi is the quintessential Star Wars movie.
Wut
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:18 pm to LuckyTiger
This reads like,"In my Hollywood bubble, I got so many pats on the back, there's no way I could ever be wrong, look @ how many people have patted me on the back?" ...
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:38 pm to Saskwatch
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Oh you mean his "light sword"?
"Laser Sword"
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:40 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
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This reads like,"In my Hollywood bubble, I got so many pats on the back, there's no way I could ever be wrong, look @ how many people have patted me on the back?" ...
Yep.
Got to love how he kept using lines in the movie to show us how fans don't know what is best. And he wanted to remove all history of the saga as we knew it.
"Let the past die, kill it if you have to"
"This isn't going to end the way you think it will"
When those were keyed in on during the trailers, I should have known then.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:39 pm to Freauxzen
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instead of making Luke into a lame version of himself and throwing the light saber, maybe he disassembles it while explaining what he doesn't like about the Jedi coldly. He takes the Crystal out and says... "This is important. We need to find the balance again, everything built around the Jedi was broken, like this light saber." "Take this crystal, and build your own light saber." And scene.
Jesus Christ. I would pay good money to see a scene like that.
Think about how beloved Luke is. Think about what Rian did to him.
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