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re: Reddit user claims the real RT score for The Odyssey is only 56%

Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:12 pm to
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I really enjoyed it. Was it his top? No, but it was a very good movie and, as always, several tiers above the slop released these days. It’s excellent.


This is exactly how I feel. The hate on this movie is insane. It’s at worst very good. I don’t know what else to say. There’s really not that much to legitimately pick at it. I’m not saying it’s perfect. But please tell me how it’s anything but a very good movie bordering on excellent. I don’t think there’s a legitimate argument that it’s a poor movie or a disaster.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 7:12 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:20 pm to
There were zero moments in it that I loved like so many scenes in his previous movies

Endings of inception and Interstellar

BB ice fight

Dark Knight joker chase scene

The prestige just in general

Memento reveals

Just to name a few



It just didn’t hit for me I guess
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 7:22 pm
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:23 pm to
Better yet, is to learn RT was once a great idea and site in the earlier stages of public Internet and got bought out by shills. I love the whole RT ratings debate - the back and forth is its own entertainment. RT means zero to me. How people put stock into RT, either way, it's fairly mind-boggling.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:37 pm to
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IMDB ratings are more granular and provide data that helps to eliminate the impact of review bombing on both ends of the ratings.


Do they do anything about whatever the opposite of review bombing is?
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:49 pm to
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Do they do anything about whatever the opposite of review bombing is?
Check tickets to showings?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:57 pm to
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Do they do anything about whatever the opposite of review bombing is?


Note, I use review bombing/counter bombing just as bombing. My parlance for brevity's sake. Counter bombing is also called brigading or astroturfing but they are both more specific terms of art.

Second, IMDB does nothing to remove bombing or counter bombing other than simple things like limiting votes by IP they just give you the data. My post was specifically to provide my process for eliminating these, at least crudely, from the data. The simple way is to ignore all 1s and 10s at least the ones given in the first weekend. If you do that alone you will pull 99% of bombs/counter bombs out of the data.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:00 pm to
I can say for certain that 97% or whatever the audience score is now is completely laughable.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:02 pm to
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The simple way is to ignore all 1s and 10s at least the ones given in the first weekend.


I tend to ignore them altogether. There are a lot of people out there that throw 10s at anything decent. Supergirl has no small number of 10s.
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:07 pm to
Also a reminder that rotten tomatoes simply means a thumbs up or thumbs down.

So 97% of people said it’s at least a 51% movie.

Not that it’s in the 97th percentile of movies all time.
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:08 pm to
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I can say for certain that 97% or whatever the audience score is now is completely laughable.
What's your take almighty TPK?

97 is actually 56 or something. 97 not understood is same as 56 not understood, in my opinion.

Laughable is ... it's there.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:10 pm to
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Also a reminder that rotten tomatoes simply means a thumbs up or thumbs down. So 97% of people said it’s at least a 51% movie. Not that it’s in the 97th percentile of movies all time.


Oh good we’re back here again
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:20 pm to
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Do they weigh them on the high end as well or is it only what they consider "bombing" that concerns them?
Review bombing doesn't exist

It is an excuse made after shite movies release and nobody likes it

Basically every instance of alleged "review bombing", the movie is dogshit

So tired of this bullshite narrative
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35401 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:21 pm to
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only bombed because they didn't have enough money left over to buy every ticket to every theater it was being shown. The Odyssey teaching them lessons.
I mean they’re getting bought out so while it’s silly to spend $1 to get 50-60 cents in return, but it makes more sense in the middle of a contentious acquisition.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:25 pm to
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I tend to ignore them altogether. There are a lot of people out there that throw 10s at anything decent. Supergirl has no small number of 10s.


Removing all 1s and 10s is the simple approach and will give you a more accurate number than leaving them in.

Just for interest if you remove the 10s and 1 from the IMBD data and convert the average from an 8 point scale (2 to 9) to a 10 point scale (1-10) you get 8.2.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35401 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:30 pm to
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Review bombing doesn't exist
I mean obviously it does. That’s why RT went to verified reviews, and IMDB has to use a weighting algorithm. And it works both ways. Melania has a 99% verified score and a 4.9/5 on RT on 2,500+ reviews but a 38% and 2.3/5 on 10,000+ total reviews. I probably wouldn’t like it (not really into documentaries like that anyways), but given that, I’m just not going to watch it so I won’t review it. So obviously those unverified reviews might include some who actually weren’t going to like it anyway but watched, but it will also include those who would like it and did watch it. So clearly that discrepancy was due to review bombing, even if the unverified will typically be lower.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:43 pm to
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That’s why RT went to verified reviews, and IMDB has to use a weighting algorithm
That isn't why.

They felt bad user reviews hurt Captain Marvel. They deleted all reviews made before the film dropped, and that wasn't enough. The MCU was a juggernaut at the time

It was a bad movie, and it was appropriately reviewed

The movie still cleared a billion dollars. . .so there goes that excuse for modern films
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:45 pm to
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Removing all 1s and 10s is the simple approach and will give you a more accurate number than leaving them in.

Just for interest if you remove the 10s and 1 from the IMBD data and convert the average from an 8 point scale (2 to 9) to a 10 point scale (1-10) you get 8.2.
The moment people catch on, they will start rating everything 9 or 2

This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 8:47 pm
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 8:45 pm to
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I don’t know what IMDB is doing but 8.4 is much more reasonable than 97%. 97 is a bullshite score and you know it

You don’t even understand something as simple as a rotten tomatoes score.

Yet, here you are….. arguing rotten tomatoes scores
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:00 pm to
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That image kind of sells it. The Woman King at 99%, Rise of Skywalker at 86%, and Little Mermaid at 93% are obviously false. Lends credibility to the rest of the claim.
Posted by Jay Are
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:01 pm to
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The moment people catch on, they will start rating everything 9 or 2


Imdb has had weighted ratings and power users since I first started using it in 2002.
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