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Movies now versus then
Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:53 am
Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:53 am
For most of my life I have really enjoyed going to see movies. The only challenge was figuring out which movies to prioritize in seeing because of all the choices I wanted to see. Now I find myself interested in only a few movies a year. It's depressing to look at what movies are put out now versus what they put out in the past. Just compare what movies have been released recently to a single year in the past (1984 partial list). I wish Hollywood could get back to creating so many good/very good/great movies again.
1984 Releases:
Ghostbusters
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Gremlins
The Karate Kid
Police Academy
Footloose
Beverly Hills Cop
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Terms of Endearment
Romancing the Stone
Splash
Purple Rain
Tightrope
The Natural
Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes
Revenge of the Nerds
Bachelor Party
Red Dawn
The Terminator
Conan the Destroyer
Sudden Impact
Silkwood
The Last Starfighter
Places in the Heart
Cannonball Run II
The Muppets Take Manhattan
Scarface
The Woman in Red
Moscow on the Hudson
Yentl
Sixteen Candles
The Jungle Book
Against All Odds
Missing in Action
Rhinestone
The NeverEnding Story
Unfaithfully Yours
Oh, God! You Devil
Best Defense
Dune
A Soldier's Story
Amadeus
Starman
The Big Chill
Irreconcilable Differences
The Cotton Club
Where the Boys Are
Thief of Hearts
Gorky Park
Cloak and Dagger
The Bounty
Streets of Fire
Johnny Dangerously
The Pope of Greenwich Village
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
The Right Stuff
The Flamingo Kid
A Christmas Story
This Is Spinal Tap
A Passage to India
The Killing Fields
1984 Releases:
Ghostbusters
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Gremlins
The Karate Kid
Police Academy
Footloose
Beverly Hills Cop
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Terms of Endearment
Romancing the Stone
Splash
Purple Rain
Tightrope
The Natural
Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes
Revenge of the Nerds
Bachelor Party
Red Dawn
The Terminator
Conan the Destroyer
Sudden Impact
Silkwood
The Last Starfighter
Places in the Heart
Cannonball Run II
The Muppets Take Manhattan
Scarface
The Woman in Red
Moscow on the Hudson
Yentl
Sixteen Candles
The Jungle Book
Against All Odds
Missing in Action
Rhinestone
The NeverEnding Story
Unfaithfully Yours
Oh, God! You Devil
Best Defense
Dune
A Soldier's Story
Amadeus
Starman
The Big Chill
Irreconcilable Differences
The Cotton Club
Where the Boys Are
Thief of Hearts
Gorky Park
Cloak and Dagger
The Bounty
Streets of Fire
Johnny Dangerously
The Pope of Greenwich Village
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
The Right Stuff
The Flamingo Kid
A Christmas Story
This Is Spinal Tap
A Passage to India
The Killing Fields
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 8:54 am
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:30 am to SoonerK
Marvel and DC ruined Hollywood.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:37 am to SoonerK
84 was a ridiculous year of film. Damn!
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:42 am to SoonerK
A large number of movies (and streaming shows) now - especially the comic book assembly line - look more like video games than movies. When I watch movies from the 90s back, the first thing that strikes me is the far superior photography. Some movies and shows today hardly seem to know how to frame a shot. Pacing has become a victim to "fix it in post". Acting lacks stars and with the increased "need" to check boxes, that's going to become more pronounced.
It's just pretty much like music. When a movie was a specialized creation that was viewed in its intended format, had clear lines of distribution and lifespan between good and mediocre and had more limited viewing resources, it was less of a commodity and more of a craft. Now, much like cable TV became, it's just spewing out anything and everything to fill the content hole of streaming...which means there's a much more negative ratio of mediocre to good where in the 90s, for example, you could probably count on one rock-solid movie offering at the theater per month. Today, you might get one per year...in a good year.
It's just pretty much like music. When a movie was a specialized creation that was viewed in its intended format, had clear lines of distribution and lifespan between good and mediocre and had more limited viewing resources, it was less of a commodity and more of a craft. Now, much like cable TV became, it's just spewing out anything and everything to fill the content hole of streaming...which means there's a much more negative ratio of mediocre to good where in the 90s, for example, you could probably count on one rock-solid movie offering at the theater per month. Today, you might get one per year...in a good year.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 9:44 am
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:43 am to Adajax
quote:
Marvel and DC ruined Hollywood.
Blasphemy on this board but I agree. I think that's why Scorsese went on a little rant about it
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:04 am to SoonerK
I went to the movies pretty much every weekend for most of the 80s. I can literally count the number of times that I've went to theater in the 21st century on one hand.
Hollywood isn't making movies that I want to see, even if they were free.
Hollywood isn't making movies that I want to see, even if they were free.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:15 am to SoonerK
Damn, I always thought 1939 was a golden year for movies, and it was damn good, but 1984 might be better. I would have had no idea all those were released in that one year.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:17 am to Adajax
quote:
Marvel and DC ruined Hollywood.
You are really going to piss off the nerds, but you're correct.
The formula to make a billion dollars on a film is too easy, so thats what theyve been doing.
The simps on here going to see an avengers movie 2 or 3 times in theatres is the problem.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:26 am to SoonerK
quote:
Scarface
Was 1983.
quote:
The Jungle Book
Was re-released in 1984, so not sure if that counts.
But either way, that's a solid list of movies for one year. I've not seen a surprisingly large number of them too.
Shoutout to Cloak and Dagger.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:51 am to SoonerK
To be fair to both now and then, a bunch of the listed movies are crap.
Yentl?
Cannonball Run 2, a garbage cash-in sequel?
An odd number star trek movie, which are all notoriously bad?
Many of them are great also. Not all of them were theatrical hits. The same way that many of these grew in reputation (and some declined like Police Academy and Revenge of the Nerds, because they simply are not funny), there have been many ignored movies the past several years that people will hopefully rediscover in time.
Yentl?
Cannonball Run 2, a garbage cash-in sequel?
An odd number star trek movie, which are all notoriously bad?
Many of them are great also. Not all of them were theatrical hits. The same way that many of these grew in reputation (and some declined like Police Academy and Revenge of the Nerds, because they simply are not funny), there have been many ignored movies the past several years that people will hopefully rediscover in time.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:58 am to Jay Are
quote:
To be fair to both now and then, a bunch of the listed movies are crap.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:05 am to Jay Are
Top 5 Grossing Movies 1984:
1. Ghostbusters
Legendary movie still getting sequels and remakes today.
2. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Bad sequel in a legendary franchise still getting sequels today
3. Gremlins
Cult classic that apparently has a reboot in the works
4. The Karate Kid
Sequels, remakes, spin-off TV shows, this thing has never run out of gas.
5. Police Academy
Top 5 Grossing Movies 2021:
1. Spiderman: No Way Home
A remake of a remade remake.
2. Shang Chi
Mostly forgettable Marvel fodder
3. Venom: Let Their Be Carnage
Mostly Forgettable Marvel fodder
4. Black Widow
Mostly forgettable Marvel fodder
5. F9: The Fast Saga
The ninth installment in a series that's as repetitive as a cuckoo clock.
4 Marvel movies and a ninth sequel versus 2 legendary franchise starters, a cult favorite and a classic comedy that spawned numerous sequels. I knew the drop was bad, but man.
1. Ghostbusters
Legendary movie still getting sequels and remakes today.
2. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Bad sequel in a legendary franchise still getting sequels today
3. Gremlins
Cult classic that apparently has a reboot in the works
4. The Karate Kid
Sequels, remakes, spin-off TV shows, this thing has never run out of gas.
5. Police Academy
Top 5 Grossing Movies 2021:
1. Spiderman: No Way Home
A remake of a remade remake.
2. Shang Chi
Mostly forgettable Marvel fodder
3. Venom: Let Their Be Carnage
Mostly Forgettable Marvel fodder
4. Black Widow
Mostly forgettable Marvel fodder
5. F9: The Fast Saga
The ninth installment in a series that's as repetitive as a cuckoo clock.
4 Marvel movies and a ninth sequel versus 2 legendary franchise starters, a cult favorite and a classic comedy that spawned numerous sequels. I knew the drop was bad, but man.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:10 pm to SoonerK
Damn strong list. I'd take these 20 over anything that's been released in the last 5 years, except for maybe top gun 2.
quote:
1984 Releases:
Ghostbusters
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Gremlins
The Karate Kid
Police Academy
Footloose
Beverly Hills Cop
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Terms of Endearment
Romancing the Stone
Splash
Purple Rain
Tightrope
The Natural
Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes
Revenge of the Nerds
Bachelor Party
Red Dawn
The Terminator
Conan the Destroyer
Sudden Impact
Silkwood
The Last Starfighter
Places in the Heart
Cannonball Run II
The Muppets Take Manhattan
Scarface
The Woman in Red
Moscow on the Hudson
Yentl
Sixteen Candles
The Jungle Book
Against All Odds
Missing in Action
Rhinestone
The NeverEnding Story
Unfaithfully Yours
Oh, God! You Devil
Best Defense
Dune
A Soldier's Story
Amadeus
Starman
The Big Chill
Irreconcilable Differences
The Cotton Club
Where the Boys Are
Thief of Hearts
Gorky Park
Cloak and Dagger
The Bounty
Streets of Fire
Johnny Dangerously
The Pope of Greenwich Village
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
The Right Stuff
The Flamingo Kid
A Christmas Story
This Is Spinal Tap
A Passage to India
The Killing Fields
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:51 pm to Mahootney
quote:
Damn strong list. I'd take these 20 over anything that's been released in the last 5 years, except for maybe top gun 2.
Really???
Lady Bird
The Shape of Water
Logan
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
The Disaster Artist
Blade Runner 2049
Wind River
Infinity War
A Star is Born
A Quiet Place
Molly's Game
First Man
The Two Popes
Parasite
Joker
1917
Ford v Ferrari
Knives Out
The Irishman
Once Upon a Time...In Hollywood
The Peanut Butter Falcon
Uncut Gems
Greyhound
The Father
Dune
Nomadland
The French Dispatch
Free Guy
Pig
The Batman
Top Gun: Maverick
Licorice Pizza
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:00 pm to SoonerK
counted 30 on that list that i've seen
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:21 pm to AUCom96
quote:
Top 5 Grossing Movies 1984:
1. Ghostbusters
Legendary movie still getting sequels and remakes today.
2. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Bad sequel in a legendary franchise still getting sequels today
3. Gremlins
Cult classic that apparently has a reboot in the works
4. The Karate Kid
Sequels, remakes, spin-off TV shows, this thing has never run out of gas.
5. Police Academy
Top 5 Grossing Movies 2021:
1. Spiderman: No Way Home
A remake of a remade remake.
2. Shang Chi
Mostly forgettable Marvel fodder
3. Venom: Let Their Be Carnage
Mostly Forgettable Marvel fodder
4. Black Widow
Mostly forgettable Marvel fodder
5. F9: The Fast Saga
The ninth installment in a series that's as repetitive as a cuckoo clock.
4 Marvel movies and a ninth sequel versus 2 legendary franchise starters, a cult favorite and a classic comedy that spawned numerous sequels. I knew the drop was bad, but man.
LOL...you are making the same comments for both lists, yet it's a positive for the 84 movies and a negative for the recent movies.
Ghostbusters: legendary movie still getting sequels and remakes today
Spiderman: a remake of a remade remake
Karate Kid: sequels, remakes, spin off tv shows, this thing never runs out of gas
Fast 9: ninth installment that is repetitive
Make up your mind.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:48 pm to AUCom96
The movie experience has gotten so expensive that the only movies most people are going to pay to see in theatre are going to be large special effects drive. Action movies.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:00 pm to AUCom96
Ive always been partial to 1994
The Lion King
Forrest Gump
True Lies
The Santa Clause
The Flintstones
Clear and Present Danger
Speed
The Mask
Mrs. Doubtfire
Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles
Maverick
Schindler's List
The Client
Philadelphia
Stargate
Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
Star Trek: Generations
Pulp Fiction
Grumpy Old Men
Dumb and Dumber
Four Weddings and a Funeral
Naked Gun 33 1/3: The Final Insult
The Little Rascals
The Crow
The Pelican Brief
Natural Born Killers
Angels in the Outfield
The River Wild
D2: The Mighty Ducks
Timecop
City Slickers II: The Legend of Curly's Gold
Beverly Hills Cop III
Tombstone
The Shadow
Major League II
Junior
Wyatt Earp
The Piano
Blue Chips
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
Reality Bites
With Honors
Quiz Show
Léon: The Professional
Little Giants
Jurassic Park
Above the Rim
The Shawshank Redemption
No Escape
Threesome
Crooklyn
Bullets Over Broadway
Wayne's World 2
Camp Nowhere
What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Nell
Blankman
Cool Runnings
The Fugitive
North
The Road to Wellville
The Three Musketeers
Ed Wood
Airheads
Addams Family Values
Ghost in the Machine
PCU
Cabin Boy
Clerks
The Hudsucker Proxy
The Scout
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Cobb
The Lion King
Forrest Gump
True Lies
The Santa Clause
The Flintstones
Clear and Present Danger
Speed
The Mask
Mrs. Doubtfire
Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles
Maverick
Schindler's List
The Client
Philadelphia
Stargate
Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
Star Trek: Generations
Pulp Fiction
Grumpy Old Men
Dumb and Dumber
Four Weddings and a Funeral
Naked Gun 33 1/3: The Final Insult
The Little Rascals
The Crow
The Pelican Brief
Natural Born Killers
Angels in the Outfield
The River Wild
D2: The Mighty Ducks
Timecop
City Slickers II: The Legend of Curly's Gold
Beverly Hills Cop III
Tombstone
The Shadow
Major League II
Junior
Wyatt Earp
The Piano
Blue Chips
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
Reality Bites
With Honors
Quiz Show
Léon: The Professional
Little Giants
Jurassic Park
Above the Rim
The Shawshank Redemption
No Escape
Threesome
Crooklyn
Bullets Over Broadway
Wayne's World 2
Camp Nowhere
What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Nell
Blankman
Cool Runnings
The Fugitive
North
The Road to Wellville
The Three Musketeers
Ed Wood
Airheads
Addams Family Values
Ghost in the Machine
PCU
Cabin Boy
Clerks
The Hudsucker Proxy
The Scout
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Cobb
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:01 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
The movie experience has gotten so expensive
Whats funny is I can remember my dad saying the same thing in the 80's.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:11 pm to ThuperThumpin
the biggest difference is most of the money and creative talent was making films .... sure, there was good TV (Cheers, Hill Street Blues etc) ... but the money was on the big screen, which incidentally had great picture quality vs the older TVs at home.
Now you are competing with home theaters/high picture quality/streaming with 100 million dollar limited series with A list stars and talent. Different landscape, but films will carry on and the allure of the shared film going experience will remain.
Now you are competing with home theaters/high picture quality/streaming with 100 million dollar limited series with A list stars and talent. Different landscape, but films will carry on and the allure of the shared film going experience will remain.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 2:12 pm
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