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"Monsieur Spade" limited series (6 episodes) on AMC with Clive Owen

Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:02 am
Posted by Twenty 49
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:02 am
Clive Owen plays aging detective Sam Spade, who has retired to a small town in southern France. Things heat up quickly and draw him out of retirement. It begins in the 1950s but jumps forward 8 years to the 60s for the main events.

Watched the first episode last night to see if the series was worth following, and it was very good. Looking forward to seeing the rest of what is billed as a limited series on AMC.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:15 am to
Is it based off of any Hammitt books, or is it all original story?
Posted by Twenty 49
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:34 am to
Appears to be an original story. Set in 63, two years after Dashiell Hammett died.

quote:

Most of “Monsieur Spade” is set in 1963, two years after the death of Spade’s real-life creator. In stepping out of Hammett’s shadow, Fontana, Frank and Owen — also an executive producer — allow themselves to embrace the fantasy of sending an acerbic American to an idyllic vacation spot.


Variety
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:35 am to
Thanks for heads up. I remember seeing trailer for this a couple months back, but had forgotten about it. Looked interesting.
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:57 am to
Interesting. Love Clive Owen. He would have made a great James Bond. I have reservations based on what HBO did to Perry Mason though.
Posted by Locoguan0
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:30 am to
Clive Owen is one of the most underappreciated actors out there. He should be doing so much more.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:51 am to
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Clive Owen


Hell yea

Will watch
Posted by Grievous Angel
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:11 am to
Thanks for the heads up. Subscribed.

I really liked him in The Knick.

Also liked looking at this chick:



..and on this very day I realized she was Bono's daughter. So now I feel weird for some reason.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Interesting. Love Clive Owen.


Same. Glad he posted this, I hadn't seen a preview for it.

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He would have made a great James Bond.


never thought of that before but he really would have.

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I have reservations based on what HBO did to Perry Mason though.


Season one was fantastic IMO. S2 dipped in quality because of the overall story line but I was still disappointed it got cancelled, especially since Perry's story line was on a bit of a cliffhanger.
Posted by flvelo12
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:11 pm to
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In stepping out of Hammett’s shadow, Fontana, Frank and Owen


Scott Frank responsible for Godless & The Queen's Gambit - count me in.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:35 pm to
Love Clive Owen.

Shootem up is such an over the top cheesiest, and still one of my fav movies with him in it.

and yes - he would have been a superb bond
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:28 pm to
I watched the first episode and thought it was very good until the end, when he found all the nuns murdered. Then I saw the previews for the rest of the season and was similarly disappointed

I’m going to watch the second episode and see where it goes. If it’s more of a slow burn, dialogue driven suspenseful noir piece like 90 percent of the first episode was, I’ll stick around further.

I’ll just throw out some random crazy thoughts -

- at times, the dialog really caught the feel of the 1941 version

- with that said, hate me, but I would have loved Owen to do the whole thing in loose bogart impression…not necessarily the accent, but the methodical, deliberate speech Tom accentuate the dialog

- I could have done without the profanity
Posted by Twenty 49
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:32 am to
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on this very day I realized she was Bono's daughter.


Her name is Memphis Eve Sunny Day Hewson, known professionally as Eve Hewson. She is sexy as hell as Nurse Lucy Elkins in The Knick.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:37 am to
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but I would have loved Owen to do the whole thing in loose bogart impression…not necessarily the accent, but the methodical, deliberate speech Tom accentuate the dialog


I read a Washington Post article that said he constantly listened to recordings of Bogart's lines to help develop his manner of speaking.

quote:

As Owen prepared for “Monsieur Spade,” the AMC limited series that premiered Sunday, he revisited Bogart’s filmography and fixated on intricacy rather than imitation. Appreciating the “economy” of Bogart’s unshowy performances, he studied the easy rhythm with which the Old Hollywood star delivered his rat-a-tat dialogue. Once filming began, Owen would center himself every day by listening to an audio file that isolated Bogart’s lines from “The Maltese Falcon” and “Casablanca.” This groundwork led the actor to a crucial conclusion: He needed to lower Spade’s hard-boiled persona to a smoldering simmer.


Oddly, he somewhat reminded me of Nicholas Cage during some of the quick patter.
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:48 pm to
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As Owen prepared for “Monsieur Spade,” the AMC limited series that premiered Sunday, he revisited Bogart’s filmography and fixated on intricacy rather than imitation. Appreciating the “economy” of Bogart’s unshowy performances, he studied the easy rhythm with which the Old Hollywood star delivered his rat-a-tat dialogue. Once filming began, Owen would center himself every day by listening to an audio file that isolated Bogart’s lines from “The Maltese Falcon” and “Casablanca.” This groundwork led the actor to a crucial conclusion: He needed to lower Spade’s hard-boiled persona to a smoldering simmer.


You know, this is perhaps what I was seeing that gave me the idea that he needed to lean more into it.

I thought that some of the best scenes were his banter at the cafe with the French policeman, who was trying to channel his inner Sydney Greenstreet.


quote:

Oddly, he somewhat reminded me of Nicholas Cage during some of the quick patter.


It’s funny, because it’s true.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:13 pm to
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She is sexy as hell as Nurse Lucy Elkins in The Knick.


For sure

Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 9:45 pm to
part 2 got me hooked
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:15 pm to
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I watched the first episode and thought it was very good until the end, when he found all the nuns murdered


So the first 60 minutes of the episode were very good but the nuns being murdered in the last 5 minutes somehow changed that for you


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I could have done without the profanity


What?
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:02 am to
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So the first 60 minutes of the episode were very good but the nuns being murdered in the last 5 minutes somehow changed that for you


While I guess it’s not a true sequel to the Maltese Falcon, it’s certainly a spiritual successor. Yes, that movie had murder in it but it was not gratuitous. The slaughter of a group of nuns and the way it was presented certainly takes the story in a very different direction, which I didn’t like.


quote:

quote: I could have done without the profanity What?


Why is that so hard to fathom?

Not to steal T——LSU’s stick, but my mother has a saying that “profanity is the crutch to a crippled vocabulary”.

This is an existing property which I would argue is targeted toward a more sophisticated audience who is at the least familiar with the original film, and more than likely holds in it high regard. To me, the nostalgia of seeing the world of Sam Spade is what drew me to watch this series. The change in language goes against that.


Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
13271 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:18 am to
I liked episode 1 but the timeline was kind of confusing. Love the look of the French countryside and characters.
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