re: Mark Hamill: I think of Luke as a different character in TLJ, he's not my Luke Skywalker

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The whole movie was about moving on from the past. Mark Hamill and the rest of you angry Star Wars fan need to move on as well.

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F*cking idiotic response.

It’s episode 8 of a 9 episode saga, but this ego maniac treats it like a stand alone and you mindless yuppies slurp that sh*t up.

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Believe it or not, the universe that Lucas set up is very limited. He created this whole galaxy that is focused on one family lineage.

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It's not limited. Have you ever watched any of the animated series? Read any of the books? Played any of the games?

There's plenty of depth and material in this universe. Rian Johnson is just a talentless hack.

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Wow. Disney has a gigantic PR problem on their hands now, that no amount of bribing reviewers can fix. Mark Hamill carries more weight than any Disney exec does within the Star Wars phenomena, and he fundamentally opposes what they did to the storyline.

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If Nerdom had Sainthood, it's a safe bet that Mark Hamill would be the first to be canonized (with only Stan Lee and William Shatner being the only ones who would be in the debate). Saint Mark's opinion carries a lot of weight in this community.

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To be honest, I think most of us were surprised that we even got to see Hamil, Ford, and Fisher in this set of Trilogy. Now after two movies we actually got decent screentime from all three of them. They have served their purpose in the movies so far, now it’s time to finish Rey and Kylos story in episode 9. If Luke was still a focal point in 9 it would have taken away from their story.

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Lol if the screen was too small for Luke in episode 9 and they needed to focus on Kylo and Rey that is fine. How about not turning him into a hopeless cranky old man and have him die like a coward. How hard is it to have him die while actually doing something worthwhile? This isn't groundbreaking.

But let's be real, Disney will probably have another new character come in for an hour of the next film.

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It’s also a bit of Hamill looking out for his own interests. The new trilogy isn’t about the old characters, but rather the new ones. But if you think of it, he goes through everything in OT to train younglings only to see that something worse than vader came into being under his watch. I mean soldiers who go through traumatic experiences in war don’t come back the same.

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No way, that dude has had 40 years of other stuff and not being Luke Skywalker. He truly loves the story and characters created by George Lucas. That never had to put on the Luke Skywalker character again and is set. I have seen a number of interviews with him and he just likes the story and character and is a huge comic book type fan. He is basically a comic book fan that got to play the most epic Sci-Fi role of all time.

I agree with everyone, if they wanted a truely new story, they could have simply skipped ahead 50 years from the current time period and had an entirely new star wars story. When they contracted Han, Luke and Leia, they were obligated to pay those stories off from the OT. All they have done is $hit on those stories trying to build the current characters by running down those characters.

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Believe it or not, the universe that Lucas set up is very limited. He created this whole galaxy that is focused on one family lineage. Rian is simply moving the story forward and showing that anyone is capable of greatness. Star Wars is creatively broke. Each Trilogy has had the same story arc, and Rian is bucking that trend.

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Not true. This universe and the stories within are mythology at its best. Did you read one story from Greek mythology and say, "Whelp. That's it. Nothing else can happen here."

The end of TFA was brilliant. Just what HAS Luke been doing for 35 years? If we're bringing the story back and saying that the Force wasn't balanced after ROTJ, then we (excitedly) get to find out that something has happened. Why is he alone on a planet?

Has he been on a journey collecting the ancient texts of the Jedi that are scattered across the galaxy? And is now embarking on an Odyssey-type story where Luke and Rey return to Leia? And on the way home to the rebellion, we see Luke train Rey in the ways of the Force as they fight off those who want the texts?

Maybe Snoke is some ancient, super-villain that was awoken by the death of Palpatine and Vader. Maybe we find out that harvesting Snoke's power was Palpatine's plan all along and that the Emperor's death only released Snoke into the galaxy. Now Luke is on a journey to slay Gorgon Medusa, a task Snoke has given to Kylo Ren to prove that he's completed his training. The climax of the movie is Luke and Kylo Ren fighting to slay Gorgon Medusa first. Winner gets to be Snoke's mortal ruler of the galaxy. Luke with the vital help of Rey defeats Kylo Ren and slays Medusa. They bring the head back to Snoke who humorously loves that this do-gooder Jedi will have to be his king. Luke refuses, since, you know, he's a good guy. Big twist is that slaying Medusa was ambiguous - Rey actually did it. Now Snoke will tempt Rey into being his Queen by showing her how her Supreme Ruler status - if she really is good - could help orphans and slaves all across the galaxy. Tune into Episode IX to see how this shakes out.

Do you see how easy it is to just straight up adapt some Greek myths to find a decent Star Wars story? There are hundreds of storylines and themes from across multiple cultures to borrow from.

Rian didn't even try to respect Luke's character or what SW fans love about the Skywalker story.

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Get over it already.

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No.

Because it should be easy. Bucking a trend that people love is hard. That's a big risk that usually fails. Just look at what's happening with DC. Snyder bucked the Superman trend and people are pissed. Because of Snyder tried to subvert what people love about Superman and Batman, it led to a convoluted set of movies that confused people.

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This movie also introduced new ideas about the force, and its powers we’ve never seen before, and took it in the direction it needed to go.

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It cheapened those powers. That's all those new ideas did.

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The best character left in the story is a Skywalker

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He's the one I'm rooting for. I hope Kylo slaughters the resistance and Rey and Leia and the movie ends with the First Order landing on that slave planet and forcing Finn and Rose into slavery next to the kids they didn't save in VIII and force feeding them the horses they forgot to set free.

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He's the one I'm rooting for. I hope Kylo slaughters the resistance and Rey and Leia and the movie ends with the First Order landing on that slave planet and forcing Finn and Rose into slavery next to the kids they didn't save in VIII and force feeding them the horses they forgot to set free.

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I feel like they set this up to where the only way the story can end is for Rey to turn Kylo to the light (or they become grey jedi), or for Kylo to win. Completely removing the Skywalker lineage would be a mistake they would have to retcon later, so I'm not sure what else they can do.

Well sure, people refusing to admit that it was too long too many one liners and cheesy sentiment are burying their heads in the sand (I haven't seen many say take that course of action personally though).

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he fundamentally opposes what they did to the storyline.

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Before all the backlast Mark was saying how great the movie was going to be. IMO this kinda makes me lose respect for MArk cause he is now going with what everyone else says when before he was saying how great the movie was going to be. He has enough power to tell the studio to change the script if he didnt approve from the beginning.