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re: Looks like The Little Mermaid is off to a bad start

Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:50 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:50 am to
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Someone on Reddit made a good point when saying that people are trying REALLY hard to like this movie and are nitpicking it in a way to make themselves like it.


how do you nitpick in a way to like somethings
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25860 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:50 am to
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There's no doubt Disney will be disappointed with the box office that might struggle to get to 600 mil. But I highly doubt they'll actually lose money on it.

Breaking even on an IP that's been this popular for 30 years should be viewed as a major failure. Disney SHOULD be making money hand over fist on these remakes
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4931 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 12:00 pm to
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Disney SHOULD be making money hand over fist on these remakes


Maybe, but I wish they wouldn't make them. They'll never match the emotion, aesthetic or magic of the original animated films. There's no way to escape the comparisons either. Eventually the audience will quit giving the benefit of the doubt on the remakes and just stop tuning in for the nostalgia factor alone. They need to focus on original stories whether it's animated or live action.
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6793 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:31 pm to
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This is actually a real song from the movie:


That's like funneling boiling diarrhea into your ear canals.

If that song is actually in the movie, then anyone defending this movie is not a serious person.
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2361 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 2:52 pm to
This is such a true statement. Look at Top Gun:Maverick. Broke the record for Memorial Day Weekend box office. 30 plus years and gets a sequel that not many thought they needed. Made money and huge profit.

Disney with all their IPs they own, should crush the box office every time. They get in their own way on making a movie that caters to a small demographic. The last episode in the Star Wars trilogy should have made the most money ever at the box office. The last movie on a series that lasted 40 years should have set a record no one could break. But they can’t get out their way.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:41 pm to
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One of the main themes in the original is the clashing of humankind and the mermaids and ocean world. Triton is very distrusting of humans. Part of what changes his mind is that Eric saves Ariel at the end when he kills Ursula. By switching roles and having Ariel "girl bossin'" and save Eric instead it completely changes that whole part of the story. It makes no sense. That's just one of many changes that disrupt the story.
see here is where y’all are so full of shite and it’s hilarious watching people who don’t watch a movie trash a movie

The biggest tipping point of Tritons distrust of humans is when Eric risks his life to help save Ariel and kill Ursula
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4931 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:46 pm to
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see here is where y’all are so full of shite and it’s hilarious watching people who don’t watch a movie trash a movie

The biggest tipping point of Tritons distrust of humans is when Eric risks his life to help Ariel


k. you've done an excellent job in pointing out how some of these "changes for a modern audience" have improved on the story.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:53 pm to
In every Disney remake there have been changes to bring the story to the “real world”, some have been better than others

I don’t think any of the remakes have been fantastic, but this is one of the better ones or possible the best. It’s far better than Lion king, Pinocchio, and mulan

Slightly better than Aladdin too

It’s in line with beauty and the beast. None of them are great because they simply should never have been made IMHO. You can recreate a cartoon and capture that magic

This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 3:54 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65562 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:27 pm to
NYT reviewer doesn't like it because it has no kink in it.
quote:

“The new, live-action ‘The Little Mermaid’ is everything nobody should want in a movie: dutiful and defensive, yet desperate for approval,

“It reeks of obligation and noble intentions. Joy, fun, mystery, risk, flavor, kink — they’re missing,” he continued."
Also seems to hate 'noble intentions.'

In a Disney princess movie.

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is"

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:22 am to
Early domestic projections for this weekend are between $30-40 Million, which is a steep decline of over 60% from week 1.



If this is accurate, this movie went from "best memorial day weekend ever " to contender for flop of the year in the span of a week.

Spiderverse and The Bogeyman are the only competition this weekend. And it's only to get worse from here.

Even the most conservative estimates indicated that this movie needed to make $550-$600 globally just to break even (it's probably closer to $700-800 million). Forget breaking even, it's gonna take a miracle for Disney to keep their losses under $300 Million.


Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:30 am to
Lin Manuel Miranda needs to be put out to pasture
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77760 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:01 am to
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it's gonna take a miracle for Disney to keep their losses under $300 Million.

Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13638 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:10 am to
Friend,

Are posters here feigning being obtuse as a running joke? Or are they bent on finding offense even when there is none? Kink is a fine word and is not being used in that review with any sexual connotations. I suggest you read the OED definition for kink.

If you read the review it is clear the writer is complaining, as I did, that the 2023 film is far too faithful to the 1989 version. I join in a similar criticism that the new one needed a kink, some divergent storyline from 1989 besides having Ariel, rather than Eric, steer the ship into Ursula’s side. It was as if these writers simply took the 89 script and said, “Let’s change it by using real humans rather than cartoons.” And their writers’ meeting ended right then and there.

I shall have more on all this later when I write my review of the film.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30264 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:21 am to
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I shall have more on all this later when I write my review of the film.

Please don't.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77760 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:25 am to
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I shall have more on all this later when I write my review of the film.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77760 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:28 am to
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Kink is a fine word and is not being used in that review with any sexual connotations. I suggest you read the OED definition for kink.

If we're going to go the grammar Nazi route, there are half a dozen different ways the writer could've linguistically achieved the pinheaded defense where your mental gymnastics took you.

"Plot twist" is the first, most common wording that came to mind.

Why you're defending someone who wanted children to have insight as to how mermaids frick, or at the very least ask their parents about it, is concerning.
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13638 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:52 am to
Friend,

Only those who watch 24 hour news could find offense with that review, whose author is clearly criticizing the film’s lack of creativity and sticking to the original 1989 script. The author has no need to apologize because delicate culture war foot soldiers are on the hunt to find offense where there is none. I suggest you expand your vocabulary and stop sexualizing and implying the sexualization of the English language.

With all of the wars to be fought for good over evil, virtue over sin, a certain segment of our world focuses on frivolity, be it implying an errant understanding of a singular word in a review about a movie remake or boycotting an evil company for putting on their product someone they do not like (where was the boycott for producing a product that kills 100,000 Americans annually?). So much energy and time spent on meaningless skirmishes.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30264 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:11 am to
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Only those who watch 24 hour news could find offense with that review, whose author is clearly criticizing the film’s lack of creativity and sticking to the original 1989 script. The author has no need to apologize because delicate culture war foot soldiers are on the hunt to find offense where there is none. I suggest you expand your vocabulary and stop sexualizing and implying the sexualization of the English language.

Did you even read the review before writing your usual ponderous drivel? It's nothing but culture war race nonsense.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24196 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:25 am to
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culture war race nonsense.

He’s all about that. Maybe for his next review he’ll talk about whites being the only ones who commit mass shootings and get banned again
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:00 am to
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I shall have more on all this later when I write my review of the film.


Friend,

No need to share your review. We're good.

Yours,
Movie/TV Board
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 8:02 am
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