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re: lets settle the debate. is die hard a Christmas movie?

Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:10 am to
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:10 am to
could have just as easily been a new years eve party.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:18 am to
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is die hard a Christmas movie?


2009: lol that’s funny - never thought of that before. This should make for an interesting debate.

2018: kill me
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:26 am to
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Is it though? Change it to a retirement party after hours in the middle of August and the plot is basically the same.

It is.

You can't take out a main part of the plot and try to replace it with something else and then claim that makes it not a Christmas movie. That's like saying if you change the time of NL's Christmas Vacation to 4th of July, it is no longer a Christmas movie....well no shite. That's the whole point.

It wasn't a retirement party in August. It was a Christmas party. That is the entire reason that people are there. And Christmas themes and things pop up throughout the entire movie.

It's not even a movie that randomly happens to have Christmas in it. It is central to the plot of the movie and is rampant throughout.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:27 am to
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Is it though? Change it to a retirement party after hours in the middle of August and the plot is basically the same.


Change the setting for A Christmas Story to a road trip to Ollie Hopnoodle's Haven of Bliss and you get the same adult waxing nostalgic about his youth plot too.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:32 am
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:31 am to
Double post.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:36 am
Posted by Captain Lafitte
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:33 am to
I'll base it off of this:


Posted by Mad_Mardigan
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:33 am to
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Change it to a retirement party after hours in the middle of August and the plot is basically the same.



Why would John McClane have visited his family across the USA for a retirement party in the middle of August? He wouldn't have been there had it not been for Christmas.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:35 am
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:35 am to
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Lethal Weapon is also a Christmas movie


So is Brazil







Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:38 am to
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So is Brazil


That was a weird, weird movie.
Posted by Norbert
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:44 am to
It’s definitely a Christmas movie.

John McClane is coming home FOR CHRISTMAS attempting to patch things up with his estranged wife. He attends a CHRISTMAS PARTY and then just so happens to run into a terrorist plot. He easily handles these terrorists, reconciles with Holly, and the viewer assumes they had a merry Christmas.

Total Christmas movie.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:49 am to
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John McClane is coming home FOR CHRISTMAS


This makes me question your expertise on the movie
Posted by Geauxboy
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:53 am to
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hallmark channel


This is the definition of a Christmas movie?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:55 am to
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This is the definition of a Christmas movie?


It's literally ALL they play from the middle of October - Christmas AND for the entire month of July. It's a good barometer if nothing else.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:01 am to
Why would people want to question this?

Of course it is.

Christmas Music, Christmas Party, Happens on Christmas Eve, Family is a central motivator to the plot. Santa Hat, Lights.

Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:06 am to
Yes, top 10 all time. Hallmark Channel is for women and gheys. Die Hard is for neither.

Hope you and your boyfriend have a Merry Christmas
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:06 am
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:06 am to
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Christmas Cocaine


Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:07 am to
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Is it though? Change it to a retirement party after hours in the middle of August and the plot is basically the same.

By that standard anything not involving Santa Clause isn’t a Christmas movie.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:08 am to
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The writer said it's a Christmas movie.


quote:

Well... uhh.... in my defense, I didn't know that. So I guess that it is a Christmas movie. Somebody needs to tell Bruce, though.


De Souza settles the Die Hard question
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:12 am to
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You can't take out a main part of the plot and try to replace it with something else and then claim that makes it not a Christmas movie. That's like saying if you change the time of NL's Christmas Vacation to 4th of July, it is no longer a Christmas movie....well no shite. That's the whole point.


If you take Christmas out of NL, it changes everything about the movie. You need to have different scenes entirely because the vast majority of the film is Christmas traditions. If you change die hard it won’t effect the film that much. You are over playing this lame arse debate from 10 years ago.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:15 am
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:14 am to
So according to you It's A Wonderful Life is not a Christmas movie.
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