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re: lets settle the debate. is die hard a Christmas movie?

Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:17 am to
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So according to you It's A Wonderful Life is not a Christmas movie.


It’s more of a religious movie to me. Lots of people like to play religious around Christmas.

Same thing with a movie like family man.

These people are the same people that post stupid shite on Facebook like warning people about dihydrogen monoxide and think they are clever.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:22 am
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:24 am to
I think of it as both a Christmas movie and an action movie. Not sure why they have to be mutually exclusive.

Also, Die Hard makes me think of Christmas.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:26 am to
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If you change die hard it won’t effect the film that much.


Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:30 am to
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If you take Christmas out of NL, it changes everything about the movie. You need to have different scenes entirely because the vast majority of the film is Christmas traditions. If you change die hard it won’t effect the film that much. You are over playing this lame arse debate from 10 years ago.


All of this
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:49 am to
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DisplacedBuckeye


Photoshop out the santa hat and ho ho ho. Scene is unchanged by much. You could probably CGI and audio edit the movie to get rid of the Christmas portions without much effort and keep the story intact. In a movie like NL, that's hard to do without making scenes have very large holes in it.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:51 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:51 am to


Well, that's complete bullshite.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:52 am to
Dottie dropped the goddamn ball on purpose
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:29 pm to
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Obviously. That's why my answer is "Gremlins."


Gremlins is more of a Christmas movie than die hard.

Die Hard is a movie that takes place during a Christmas party. That does not make it a Christmas Movie.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:36 pm to
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Die Hard is a movie that takes place during a Christmas party. That does not make it a Christmas Movie.



What qualifies other movies as Christmas movies then?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:08 pm to
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What qualifies other movies as Christmas movies then?


Like the old Supreme Court case and obscenity, "I know it when I see it", and Die Hard is not a Christmas movie
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:11 pm to
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Die Hard is a movie that takes place during a Christmas party. That does not make it a Christmas Movie.


A Christmas Story is a movie that takes place during Christmas. That does not make it a Christmas movie.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16511 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:14 pm to
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A Christmas Story is a movie that takes place during Christmas. That does not make it a Christmas movie.


Yeah, that would be the movie's focus on many Christmas traditions that makes it a Christmas movie. That doesn't work for Die Hard
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:14 pm to
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Yeah, that would be the movie's focus on many Christmas traditions that makes it a Christmas movie. That doesn't work for Die Hard


Replace Christmas with a birthday party and all that...
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16511 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Replace Christmas with a birthday party and all that...


Are you talking about in a Christmas Story?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:23 pm to
I'm being intentionally sarcastic to prove a point.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:24 pm to
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I'm being intentionally sarcastic to prove a point.


I must be dense then, because I don't see a point to that post
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:25 pm to
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I must be dense then


Maybe.

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I don't see a point to that post


It's cumulative. You have to take it in context of the entire thread.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:28 pm to
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Replace Christmas with a birthday party and all that...


A christmas story is a collection of stories, so I think you could get a decently coherent 1-2 episode TV show out of some of the stories that don't need Christmas. Film uses the theme of Christmas to tie all the stories together, so half and half Christmas maybe. TBS ruined that movie for me, so banishing it from Christmas is fine for me.

I am not talking about reshoots, but just simply editing the known footage.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 1:32 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71904 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:43 pm to
Your original point changed a central plot element. Change Christmas to birthday, and what's the result? I don't care about reshoots or edits.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:46 pm to
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Your original point changed a central plot element. Change Christmas to birthday, and what's the result? I don't care about reshoots or edits.


The result is it's still mainly about a kid wanting a bb gun, everyone telling him it's too dangerous, his cantankerous father still gives it to him, and Ralphie shoots his eye out just like everyone warned.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 4:43 pm
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