re: lets settle the debate. is die hard a Christmas movie?

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No, lots of people have Facebook and don’t post dumb shite like this debate. 

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So you just read their posts, get pissed off, and come here to argue with strangers.



at using Facebook to plan vacations.

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You enjoy this too.

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Obviously, but I'm not the one whining about differing opinions or insulting people who have them.

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a great way

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No it isn't.

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His wife’s name is even HOLLY. It’s a Christmas movie.

Also, the limo driver’s name is Argyle. What’s the most popular type of Christmas sweater? You guessed it, Argyle.

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Game. Set. Match.

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So now I need to have a motorcycle to travel?

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Yes

Yes, but it also an action movie. They can be both.

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Wrong. Again.

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No

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lets settle the debate. is die hard a Christmas movie?

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The debate won't be settled if everyone sticks to a purely binary determination. It can be run a gamut from a very Christmasy movie to kinda Christmasy movie to non-Christmasy movie.

Die Hard has several Christmas elements:
Christmas setting
Motivation for the protagonist - family/togetherness
Motivation for antagonist(s) - greed
Secondary plot point - Al gets redemption by saving McClain by firing his gun after losing his nerve years earlier

This little spiel helps tie the Christmas theme together pretty good:

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Much ink has spilled over the Christmas-ness of Die Hard. I consider this a settled question, but you might not. Here’s why you should. Hans Gruber wanted to steal the bearer bonds locked in a vault atop the Nakatomi building. His plan demanded two facets: the presence of the company’s president, who knew the codes to the vault; and a minimum security and police presence. Both boxes could be checked only on Christmas Eve. Now, a movie set at Christmas does not a Christmas movie make, but McTiernan sprinkles holiday imagery throughout. “Now I have a machine gun Ho Ho Ho,” being one example. The giant bear sitting in the limo is another. Christmas decor stands in several scenes. The snowing of bearer bonds and other papers at the movie’s end. In Die Hard it’s Christmas all the way.

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TL;DR

Is Die Hard a Christmas movie? YES

Is Die Hard a movie that embodies Christmas? NO

--> I mean that Die Hard, while a Christmas movie, isn't a movie that a family with children will gather around to watch on Christmas Eve; i.e, no one should say, "Die Hard is a movie that shows us what Christmas is about."

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No, it isn't. You tried to make the point that "Christmas is about the nativity, not the sacrifice. For the sacrifice, you need an Easter-themed movie."

That's obviously not correct.

Your problem is that you're trying to debate the meaning behind the Christmas holiday. I don't care about that. We're discussing whether Die Hard is a Christmas movie or not, and your points are irrelevant to that.

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Are you fricking kidding me? I'm sorry, but only an imbecile would misunderstand what happened in that exchange. You brought up Jesus as a sacrificial figure as evidence of it being a Christmas movie. I pointed out that there's a completely different holiday associated with Jesus as a sacrificial figure. You somehow interpret that as me bringing up the subject when my observation was entirely in reply to your original use of Jesus as a sacrificial figure to argue for "Die Hard" being a Christmas movie. At no point did I even dispute the question of whether "Die Hard" is a Christmas movie.

fricking dumbass Ohioans. Y'all shouldn't be allowed to voice opinions because you never manage to voice informed ones.

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Are you fricking kidding me?

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Not at all. You're clearly lost.

I posted that the writer says it's a Christmas movie and something he posted.

I didn't bring up Jesus and sacrifice. You did. That's what you decided you wanted to melt about.

Not only that, but you're also wrong about what Christmas represents. I can explain that to you, too, but let's get you up to speed on what happened with your melt first.


Also...

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fricking dumbass Ohioans. Y'all shouldn't be allowed to voice opinions because you never manage to voice informed ones.

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Please say you're from Tennessee...or really any southern state.