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re: Let’s all admit GoT jumped the shark in season 5

Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:19 pm to
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The hyperbole with how “bad” GOT gets is always amusing.



Seriously. 5 and 7 weren't as good as 1-4, but they were FAR from bad. They were still great television. And season 6 was arguably the best season other than the weak faceless men plot.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:47 pm to
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Seriously. 5 and 7 weren't as good as 1-4, but they were FAR from bad. They were still great television.


Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:56 pm to
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Seriously. 5 and 7 weren't as good as 1-4, but they were FAR from bad.


Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:57 pm to
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Y'all remember when that guy kicked theon in the balls but theon ain't have balls so it didn't hurt

Best. Season. Ever


Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56423 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:08 pm to
How is this troll thread still going?
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2) Just lol at the hair color changes of Jaime Lannister
Really? How much does that bother you? Plus, I think it just looks browner because it's shorter. And who gives a shite?
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3) Lol at Sansa and Reek surviving that jump
Okay, if this is the kind of thing you people are bitching about, you just need to quit watching the show, or TV altogether.
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5) Tyrion somehow became a warrior, beating up his captor. Tyrion has never been a fighter.

If you'd read the books, you'd kn ow that even though he's a dwarf and would't defeat a good fighter, he grew up getting his arse kicked by Jaime every day, so he'd definitely acquired some skills.
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high sparrows thing takes the cake.
I thought it was a good illustration of how a theocracy can seize control and why Cersei is a shitty ruler. This is why Varys kills Pycelle and Kevan in the books. He wants Cersei to keep doing stupid shite.
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SFP
Fat people are incapable of happiness. The jolly thing is a lie, so of course you bitch.

Sit back. Enjoy life. Take it all in. Try not to let the rate of gravitational acceleration from a castle wall into a snow bank enter into your enjoyment.

Now get out there and make a difference.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:22 pm to
And Dorne?
Posted by kale
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Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:25 pm to
Couldn’t make it to s2 of this trash
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56423 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:02 am to
Does it have to be 100% pure gold to be considered "good?" Plus, it gave us characters to hate and want dead, and then it delivered. The simultaneous death of all the Sand bitches was magnificent.

And anyone who doesn't think "hold the door" was one of the best moments in TV history has no soul. That episode alone makes a great season.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:13 am to
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Does it have to be 100% pure gold to be considered "good?" Plus, it gave us characters to hate and want dead, and then it delivered. The simultaneous death of all the Sand bitches was magnificent.

And anyone who doesn't think "hold the door" was one of the best moments in TV history has no soul. That episode alone makes a great season.


Your unfounded hatred of the two tournaments I have done just for fun is now long forgotten. %100 agree with this.

The Dorne plot was horrible. Elaria Sand is one of the worst characters the show has ever had. But out of seven seasons she was partially featured in half of a season and then killed off, just like everybody wanted. And getting to see dem titties of Tyene Sand made up for it all.

It was so incredibly perfect for 3 seasons it was impossible to keep it up. I genuinely didnt like season 5. But it doesn't take away from the fact that it's still the greatest * TV show ever to air.

*non comedy
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 8:00 am to
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Couldn’t make it to s2 of this trash

What does season 2 have to do with anything? This is a discussion of season 5.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 8:20 am to
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Does it have to be 100% pure gold to be considered "good?"

no, but it had a lot more bad/cringe than great, and the good was much more rare

season 5 is when the show really started to become more formulaic and typical (because D&D had to start creating their own GOT and they are not creators. they were very good at adapting, but creating? naw), which severely hurt the peaks. so you have a show that has a lot more bad and a lot less great, plus the middle bits are more forgettable (because they're much more typical)

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Plus, it gave us characters to hate and want dead, and then it delivered.

hating a character because they developed a round character worthy of hate is one thing

hating a character because they're shitty and terrible actors is something else

and eliminating those characters had D/D double down on the stupidity and they completely compromised the Dorne storyline. the utter stupidity required to accept Dorne after season 5 is unimagineable. dragons are a more believable plot device than the death of Doran and takeover by the Sand Snakes. that's what was required because of how terrible Dorne in season 5 was.

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And anyone who doesn't think "hold the door" was one of the best moments in TV history has no soul. That episode alone makes a great season.

one of the final vestiges of GRRM that D/D had to include. it's no shock that it had the impact it did
Posted by LarryDavid
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 8:29 am to
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1) The High Sparrows introduction was absolutely out of place. For the past 4 seasons we get used to the King of the Iron Throne having all thiscalmoght power, no one dare step to the King or Queen, no one. Yet, here arrives a religious group that no one has heard of and they have the power to lock up anyone they want, even the queen and the king can’t prevent it. Wat. Why weren’t the high sparrows used before?




Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 9:13 am to
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And they somehow made the Sand Snakes even worse


Nice tits on that one, though
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56423 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:01 pm to
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no, but it had a lot more bad/cringe than great, and the good was much more rare

In your opinion. I thought it was a great season.
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season 5 is when the show really started to become more formulaic and typical (because D&D had to start creating their own GOT
Wrong. The whole story is laid out for them. Just because GRRM hasn't released the last books doesn't mean the story just stops at book 5. If that's what you consider a strong argument, you're never being my lawyer.
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you have a show that has a lot more bad and a lot less great
Then quit watching it. Instead of being a debate troll trying to argue people into not liking it (you must think quite highly of yourself), just step off.

I look forward to the melts when the show ends and every sandy, pissy little butthole loses his shite because the story didn't end the exact, precise way they wanted it to.
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the utter stupidity required to accept Dorne after season 5 is unimagineable
Calm down, drama queer.
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one of the final vestiges of GRRM that D/D had to include
No, again, there are quite a few vestiges. And claiming that it's only good because the other parts are bad is just a bullshite lawyer's argument, and a weak one at that.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:03 pm to
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So you hate character and plot development.


Flipping switches without progressive explanation is not character and plot development. It’s horrible writing. Everyone in this thread can agree the average viewer notices a drop off in season 5.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:05 pm to
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blueboy


You are the least intelligent poster in this thread. You come in here attacking other posters because they don’t agree with your shite opinion that season 5 wasn’t a bad season.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20829 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:08 pm to
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Flipping switches without progressive explanation is not character and plot development. It’s horrible writing. Everyone in this thread can agree the average viewer notices a drop off in season 5


1. A drop off does not equal bad, and certainly not “jumping the shark”
2. The biggest reason for the decline isn’t that they ran out of source material, it’s that the source material got worse
3. Season 5 was still acclaimed by critics
4. Season 6 was past the source material and was better than season 5
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Member since Sep 2011
31622 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:42 pm to
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You come in here attacking other posters because they don’t agree with your shite opinion that season 5 wasn’t a bad season.






Actually it looks like people are attacking him because he likes Season 5. And your post further proves that by calling him the least intelligent poster on the board. Just saying
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56423 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:10 pm to
I read 3 1/2 pages of people nit-picking every little thing, and I strongly disagreed. I wondered why people would want to mill around a thread bitching as if they were trying to convince everyone else that their subjective views are simply wrong.

The OP is a troll, obviously, and then the usual supporting cast swept in and applied the same standard of impossible perfection that they used to nit-pick DK and DKR. Any movie can be made to sound like the biggest piece of shite ever put on film when you attack it like that.

Like the Godfather. It's poorly-written racist propaganda.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85073 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:16 pm to
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And anyone who doesn't think "hold the door" was one of the best moments in TV history has no soul. That episode alone makes a great season.
I'm with you till you hit this point. Hold the door, while emotional, is a shite way to explain his condition. And I don't care if that's how the fat man wanted it. Time travel would ruin this series completely. I hope they don't go near it again although I have a feeling Bran is going to either be the NK himself or Brandon the Builder or have some impact way back when. Not looking forward to that.
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