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re: How Star Trek Was Destroyed By Hollywood, The Full History Of Its Ruination
Posted on 2/19/26 at 6:34 am to Havoc
Posted on 2/19/26 at 6:34 am to Havoc
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It’s incredible how this kind of shite is allowed to happen to this degree.
It only makes sense when you view it through the lens of people actively and intentionally destroying existing elements of pop culture as part of a larger anti western cultural agenda.
The odds of any other explanation being true seems highly unlikely when the people running these studios on behalf of shareholders make the same decisions over and over to property after property against all profit incentive.
Incompetence + profit motive would result in the people doing it being fired, yet they’re never fired.
Its all downstream of politically driven studios implementing guidelines for representation which results in Joan of Arc being black and horrible stories which destroy beloved western IP.
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 7:05 am to tide06
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It only makes sense when you view it through the lens of people actively and intentionally destroying existing elements of pop culture as part of a larger anti western cultural agenda.
I'm not a conspiracy threorist, but shockingly, I tend to agree with you. You can easily dismiss what happened to Star Trek and Star Wars IP as extreme corporate greed and lack of imagination by the major studios. But, like you said, if you take a step back and look at it, they really ruined a core part of pop-culture that celebrates western ideaology.
At its core, the main characters of the original star trek were a microcosm of what was going on in america. Star trek proved that all these different people could work together to tackle anything. I can see chinese investing heavily into destroying it.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 7:17 am to drizztiger
I liked Strange New Worlds at first, then it just got kinda, like the author states, stupid.
I never finished the last season. I tried at first, then just kinda forgot about it.
I never finished the last season. I tried at first, then just kinda forgot about it.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 7:41 am to tide06
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Incompetence + profit motive would result in the people doing it being fired, yet they’re never fired.
On a related note, it is unquestionable that Disney would have made more money if they had done nothing with the Star Wars IP after they bought it except license it out.
Doing what they did (box office grosses, notwithstanding) and literally lighting on fire good money in the process has made the IP worth, effectively $0 in today's market.
And Star Trek is right there after this shitshow of a new series.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 8:10 am to BitBuster
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I can see chinese investing heavily into destroying it.
The Chinese are actually building a technofuture, though. It's a totalitarian nightmare, but they're building it.
This subversion and destruction of western ideology isn't Chinese.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 8:12 am to blueboy
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JJ's wife and her sexual blackmail racket had a lot to do with him advancing in the business
What is this about?
Posted on 2/19/26 at 8:41 am to boxcarbarney
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Kurtzman’s response was a hard no, and as Avary explains it, “He didn’t want anybody who had any kind of fondness for the original show. He wanted to do something new and create something new.”
The canary in the coal mine for an IP.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 8:45 am to molsusports
She co-founded Timesupp, which along with MeToo ran people out of the business by threatening to turn them into the next Bill Cosby. Even when criminal/civil actions failed, they still lost their jobs because of bad PR.
Joss Whedon was run off for being mean to people on the set. In Hollywood. Nothing ever mattered. If they could round up a posse of accusers, it was always assumed to be true regardless of outcome and people were ruined.
Joss Whedon was run off for being mean to people on the set. In Hollywood. Nothing ever mattered. If they could round up a posse of accusers, it was always assumed to be true regardless of outcome and people were ruined.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 8:53 am to TigerFanatic99
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Nothing in your quoted sections mention Strange New Worlds. Did the article just decide to skip over it? SNW is legit some of the best Star Trek, period, and have two seasons left to finish it out.
i regret i have but one downvote to give you
Posted on 2/19/26 at 1:23 pm to Pauldingtiger
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Alex Kurtzman is supposedly out at Parmount due to the failure of Academy. No offense but the guy looks like a dweeb and everything he’s had direct and total influence over with Star Trek has been trash! Just more DEI failures of Hollywood!
God willing. Problem is that just like Star Wars, the IP has been so decimated that it may never recover.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 2:59 pm to boxcarbarney
The issue with the modern movie and TV industry generally is that writers are being brought in to work on IPs that they did not create themselves, do not understand, and may have no real interest in, so when they are given those properties they tend to steer them in directions that they themselves do like and understand and find interesting. I like to think I'm a pretty decent writer, but if you were to hire me to shape the future of the Twilight franchise I can guarantee you that there would be a lot less glittery vampires moping about their love lives and a lot more totally badass gunplay, and the IP's existing fanbase would probably be upset about the new (but very rad) direction.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 5:11 pm to boxcarbarney
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It doesn’t fit the narrative.
quote:BOOM
There’s a section on SNW.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 5:42 pm to Bard
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Kurtzman’s response was a hard no, and as Avary explains it, “He didn’t want anybody who had any kind of fondness for the original show. He wanted to do something new and create something new.”
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He didn’t want anybody who had any kind of fondness for the original show
That’s just stupid and someone who cares nothing about the bottom line. Very similar to what happened to Star Wars.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 5:57 pm to Bham4Tide
....and Wheel of Time....and The Witcher.....and Rings of Power.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 5:59 pm to Centinel
Cavill was pushed out for giving a shite about the source material
They preferred to fail with their garbage and Miley Cyrus' cuck
than make a successful, faithful Witcher adaptation with Cavill.
I mean. . .
message over everything, I guess.
They preferred to fail with their garbage and Miley Cyrus' cuck
than make a successful, faithful Witcher adaptation with Cavill.
I mean. . .
message over everything, I guess.
This post was edited on 2/19/26 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 2/20/26 at 7:21 am to TheTideMustRoll
It amazes me that JJ Abrams and Alex Kurtzman could have created a series like Fringe after seeing their most recent efforts.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:43 am to TigerFanatic99
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Nothing in your quoted sections mention Strange New Worlds. Did the article just decide to skip over it? SNW is legit some of the best Star Trek, period, and have two seasons left to finish it out.
Strange new worlds is much better than people like nerdrotic say, i found it pretty close to TNG in many ways. People complaining about the fairy tale story and musical stuff forget Worf in tights.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:57 am to BitBuster
quote:the original series premiered in 1966
At its core, the main characters of the original star trek were a microcosm of what was going on in america
quote:it was a Western serial. The very talented writers and producers took the opportunity to take something very familiar to viewers and make it multicultural based on the utopian premise that all of the cultural issues of 1960s America had been overcome
Roddenberry had extensive experience in writing for series about the Old West that had been popular television fare in the 1950s and 1960s. Armed with this background, he characterized the new show in his first draft as "Wagon Train to the stars". Like the familiar Wagon Train, each episode was to be a self-contained adventure story, set within the structure of a continuing voyage through space.
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