re: HBO’s ‘Game of Thrones’ Prequel Will Explore ‘Internalized Misogyny’ and ‘Patriarchy’

He definitely responded, that’s for sure

Didn’t really say anything though

Unless you consider virtue signaling to the white identity culture warrior crowd…which I’m guessing you absolutely do

Don’t you have some teenagers to be ogling on the OT or helping your wife, the breadwinner, move?

Bitch

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If you reread my post, I explicitly pointed out to you that part of how patriarchy and misogyny are explored in this universe is simply through the contrasting ways in which different cultures have different levels of equality and freedom for woman

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And by thinking that GRRM did this to every main female character basically says he's a hack that can't write anything other than misogyny. The books would be boring as hell if that's what the theme is for all these women. But for some reason you think to make a point about the new show you have to say that the entire other series is the sane way, which is just not true.

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She managed to earn her way by basically over excelling to prove her worth and gain some semblance of respect

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Or that she was just a bad arse on her own. It came natural to her, she fit in. Just because she was a great raider doesn't mean she was an overachiever. There weren't a bunch of jealous women sitting around mad that she was an overachiever. She was raised hard, just like a son would have been, and she turned out hard.

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The show is even more explicit in pushing the patriarchal elements into the forefront when the Euron/Yara confrontation comes to a head.

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Yes, she lost out on the crown. She didn't cry about it. She not the first person to not get what they want. It's not like there wasn't a case to be made for Euron and he got it for free. He had a claim. On one hand she wasn't respected, on the other hand she was respected more than Theon by their dad and other men. Those things can even themselves out. And again, she's not a bland arse character who's arc, according to you, it's just one of the many females with the same theme.

But you've never had a give and take conversation on here the entire time you've been on TD, not sure why I even responded. But sure keep on chanting "internalized misogyny" like your the M/TV boards Don Lemon and I'm sure you'll keep getting the Tucker Carlson's of TD to respond.

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And by thinking that GRRM did this to every main female character basically says he's a hack that can't write anything other than misogyny. The books would be boring as hell if that's what the theme is for all these women.

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Again, you should read what I actually wrote instead of wasting all these words arguing straw men

I said that each of those characters I listed explored and touched upon issues of misogyny and patriarchy, to different degrees and in different manners, and that it was done in a multitude of ways in the books/show, some just comparatively, some pretty on the nose. I did not, and would not ever say that is ALL their stories and arcs amounted to. Just as that will not be the case with Rheanarya and Alicent in this series, despite the incessant melts from the reactionary gallery thinking GRRM put all his energy into retconning one of his favorite eras in his lore to virtue signal to some made up boogieman caricature of the “woke libs”

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Yes, she lost out on the crown. She didn't cry about it. She not the first person to not get what they want. It's not like there wasn't a case to be made for Euron and he got it for free. He had a claim. On one hand she wasn't respected, on the other hand she was respected more than Theon by their dad and other men. Those things can even themselves out. And again, she's not a bland arse character who's arc, according to you, it's just one of the many females with the same theme.

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I’m not even sure what the frick you are arguing here? Are you under the impression that patriarchal illustration, commentary, or deconstruction is only ever present in a story if women cry about losing out to a man?

And are you really trying to seemingly defend the Iron Isle’s from charges of patriarchy? You know, the culture GRRM makes crystal clear in his novels that it is in fact deeply patriarchal(salt wives, woman are default seen as not fit to command ships)? And that Asha compensates for that accordingly, yet it still is a factor in doing her in.




Frankly I’m not even sure what you think this gaslighting is meant to achieve?

Here is GRRM being explicitly clear that Westeros is a patriarchal society, that his female characters reflect different ways of dealing with that, and he tries, through his writing, to illustrate and express the pains and frustrations for woman living under that sort of society. Though also wanting to show woman of strong character and ability that defy those barriers put in front of them and how much he takes pride in not having the sort of stock and tropish sexualized characters so many in fantasy write when it comes to woman, trying to actively turn those tropes on their head
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discussing misogyny in a completely made up planet in universe that doesn’t exist. Smart

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It'll be done metaphorically brah!

You’re right and neither is this show, but the themes this article is talking about was present in the GoT only difference is GoT didn’t have articles like this talking about shite like “smash the patriarchy”

So another series to avoid then, like the rings of power.

This series is DOA

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Or why the storytellers become "preachy" for exploring that space or letting audiences know about it in interviews?

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Because it's a very broken record in that industry right now and it's fully expectant that "exploring that space" will be a very one-sided and preachy exploration.

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Because it's a very broken record in that industry right now and it's fully expectant that "exploring that space" will be a very one-sided and preachy exploration.

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Right, but stop and think for a second here.

Why do you think these actresses began talking about this in a media blitz interview?

Do you think the interviewer of a center-left media blog said " How are you liking the weather today?" and the lead actresses responded with patriarchy AND misogyny!

Of course not lol, they were asked a series of questions and one of them was assuredly something along the lines of "How do you feel this show does at handling the patriarchal nature of the world these characters inhabit?"....And they answered it

Probably right before or after they asked about how much sexposition will be in this one(according to Matt Smith, way more than even he was expecting) and which was her favorite costume.

Breitbart, which exists off clicks and retweets, found a pot of gold narrative: nerd fantasy and their audiences conditioned sensitivity to things labeled "woke"

And what do outraged culture warriors do? They click and retweet and that gets more clicks!

Almost like it's in their financial interest to stoke these culture wars....