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re: HBO’s ‘Game of Thrones’ Prequel Will Explore ‘Internalized Misogyny’ and ‘Patriarchy’
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:32 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:32 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Why not wait to see if the new series will explore the aforementioned misogyny theme in a way that was as well-written as the original series
Cause you are appealing to a bunch of people that think the “natural order of things” is that men should have a superior place to woman. And the culture wars they subscribe to have shifted back away from immigrants and Muslims to blacks, gays, and woman.
This is not about anger over not presenting commentary about patriarchy and misogyny respectfully, it’s about being annoyed that negative commentary about patriarchy is presented at all. And that it would be marketed as a good thing in our culture. That is where the outrage stems from
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:34 pm to biglego
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there were enough tragic and shithead women in the original series that it never felt preachy at all.
We don’t know if the new series will be preachy either. The question was solicited. Meaning an interviewer, who like anyone with eyes and ears, picked up on the theme(s) of the original series and asked a question to a very specific question, which called for a specific answer. The feminist buzzwords aside, their answer is fairly consistent with the original series, and it was just them giving an honest answer to a question.
It doesn’t even say it will be the central thesis of the show, only that it will “explore” the topic.
Edit: Also, this is an answer given by an actress, which just means it will the takeaway the actress had from the writing and not necessarily reflecting the writers central priority. (It undoubtably is prominent in the series, but for all we know, this one actress is commenting from her own perspective which may not exactly align with the writers.)
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:43 pm to Bronc
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And the culture wars they subscribe to have shifted back away from immigrants and Muslims to blacks, gays, and woman.
This is why it’s hopeless to even try to converse with a devout prog like you. The actual creators are explicitly telling us that they’re inserting the “culture war” into these shows/movies. And still, here you are, 10 pages later, still convincing yourself we got this from Breitbart and it’s all in our heads and in any case we must just hate women and love the patriarchy or some bullshite.
You sound like a crazy person tbh.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:47 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Yeah maybe, but it seems we’re really having to stretch to remain optimistic. I’d really just like to have a great story with interesting characters. Hopefully that’s not too much to ask.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:47 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Why defend it against the accusation?
Exploring the themes of interpersonal misogyny or social patriarchy is no different than a film or tv show exploring the drug war, PTSD, oppression, militarism, religious persecution, The Irish Immigration experience, or characters that’s personal struggle involved any sort of social or cultural inequity.
The issue they have isn’t with the presentation, it’s with the promotion of that particular viewpoint. Trying to argue they will do it justice or with a respectful hand misdiagnoses the contention.
Exploring the themes of interpersonal misogyny or social patriarchy is no different than a film or tv show exploring the drug war, PTSD, oppression, militarism, religious persecution, The Irish Immigration experience, or characters that’s personal struggle involved any sort of social or cultural inequity.
The issue they have isn’t with the presentation, it’s with the promotion of that particular viewpoint. Trying to argue they will do it justice or with a respectful hand misdiagnoses the contention.
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:52 pm to Proximo
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Proximo
So, to recap:
1. We have a click-baity IndieWire article.
2. IndieWire solicits click-baity response from HoD actress about the franchise's prominent theme of misogyny and patriarchy.
3. Actress obliges reporter with admittedly eyeroll-inducing buzzword salad, which for the most part, is probably, an honest answer.
4. Additionally, the way she describes the new GoT show is in no significant way inconsistent with the themes depicted in the original series.
5. Breitbart picks up on the story and realizes they can have their own click-bait by dangling the red meat that is the word "woke" by disingenuously suggesting that the new show is going to "introduce" these feminist themes to the franchise.
Have I missed anything?
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:54 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Have I missed anything?
The black elves
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:57 pm to biglego
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The actual creators are explicitly telling us that they’re inserting the “culture war” i
1.) you are a fricking moron if you think Emma D’Arcy created the show or story
2.) this so called “culture war” is a one way street. Normal, well adjusted people don’t freak out over stories that don’t neutrally frame the 1400’s esque patriarchal society in a fantasy show
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:57 pm to biglego
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The black elves
If I hear one more goddamn thing about those fricking black elves and black hobbits, I'm going to puke.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:00 pm to blueboy
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more weak shite.
You back from ogling underage Stranger Things actresses? you pedo POS
Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:56 pm to Bronc
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2.) this so called “culture war” is a one way street. Normal, well adjusted people don’t freak out over stories that don’t neutrally frame the 1400’s esque patriarchal society in a fantasy show
You really come off like a caricature. It’s kind of hard to believe you are not a troll. Are you for real? You can’t be.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:51 am to Bronc
You are just talking to yourself in this thread. And maybe dawgfan 
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:00 am to UndercoverBryologist
You seem to be missing the point that several have made where shows that ramp up with interviews like this tend to be below average.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 1:01 am
Posted on 8/12/22 at 6:25 am to Sun God
It really just depends how far they go. The wife/daughter/girl not being able to be king because of custom isn't exactly a new theme or idea in a medieval/knight's story.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:09 am to biglego
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Have I missed anything?
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The black elves

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