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re: GoT S7 E5 "Eastwatch" MAESTERS THREAD

Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:53 am to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:53 am to
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Jorah come back right now and interfering with Jon and Dany
bruh, if jon was down, dany would have stripped down and fricked jon right there on the table in front of everyone. I don't think you have to worry about anything interfering
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:54 am to
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Even if they knew what could they do with that information?


I think Tywin would send some catspaw with the Tears of Lys to Winterfell and had them kill a baby Jon. He went all out and Tywin wasn't risking Ned telling Jon about his true heritage. Varys might have him killed as well, but I do suspect Varys in the books does know it.

As for Barristan, I think he would have gone to the Wall after Joffrey dismissed him instead of to Dany.

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For someone like Varys who might want to use Jon to hold power, who was left to support a Targ claim that he could latch onto? He obviously had better options to stay in the game than using Jon.


I mean, in the show sure, but in the books the Targaryens are merely a distraction for the Blackfyres.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:56 am to
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It seemed like early on any man who died north of the wall woke up as a wight. That is why they burn the dead. There were no walkers around when the first wight showed up.

Take a criminal north of the wall, hang him, put him in a cage and wait for him to get back up.



I was just going to say the same thing. Why risk everything when you can just kill a criminal and wait for him to turn.

Although it doesn't make for a very exciting episode.
Posted by Methuselah
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:57 am to
So, what was in the box Jorah loaded into the row boat that was going to the ship on the way to Eastwatch? Hopefully some Dragonglass weapons. Because I'd hate to think they are going on that expedition north of the wall with one Valyrian sword and one flaming sword.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:00 am to
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I don't think Ned knew they were married until after he spoke to Lyanna in the tower



Why would 3 of the KingsGuard be with his sister? That is the part that has never made sense to me about the whole thing. If there wasn't someone of the royal family there, why defend them with some of the best swords. They would only go with someone of the royal line
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:03 am to
Personally I think Ashara Dayne is the one who tipped off Ned knowing her brother's death was certain and that Ned might see Arthur spared. Once he returns the Sword of the Morning to Starfall, I think Ashara killed herself due to the man she loved killing her brother and thinking it was her fault her brother was dead.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:04 am to
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So, what was in the box Jorah loaded into the row boat that was going to the ship on the way to Eastwatch? Hopefully some Dragonglass weapons. Because I'd hate to think they are going on that expedition north of the wall with one Valyrian sword and one flaming sword.



Yes Dragonglass. It clinked when he set it down, and they aren't just going to Eastwatch to head over the wall, its the first shipment of the Dragonglass for weapon making.

It would have been crazy of them to not take some with them when they went north of the wall. I guarantee they all have something.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25910 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:04 am to
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what was in the box



Edit: Could be weapons, or it could have just been supplies for the trip.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 10:06 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:06 am to
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A maester doesn't grant annulment, a Septin qould have to and it would be news that would surely slip out.


She was reading High Septon Maynard's book.
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
2305 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:06 am to
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I think Lena Hedley is pregnant so they're writing it into the show.


She isn't going to have another kid, so the clock is ticking on it turning out to be false or Cersei dying (or miscarrying I guess).
"The king will have 20 children, and you will have three. Gold will be their crowns. Gold, their shrouds"

She's already had her three.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109116 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:06 am to
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As for Barristan, I think he would have gone to the Wall after Joffrey dismissed him instead of to Dany.


Book Barristan does go to Dany.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86041 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:07 am to
quote:

So, what was in the box Jorah loaded into the row boat that was going to the ship on the way to Eastwatch? Hopefully some Dragonglass weapons. Because I'd hate to think they are going on that expedition north of the wall with one Valyrian sword and one flaming sword.


Yeah, I wondered this as well

if they all don't have dragonglass weapons, that's just bad writing
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:07 am to
I'm saying he would have gone to the Wall to defend Jon and tell him about his heritage.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109116 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:07 am to
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Why risk everything when you can just kill a criminal and wait for him to turn. Although it doesn't make for a very exciting episode.



Ding ding ding. We have a winner!
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24836 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:08 am to
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I was just going to say the same thing. Why risk everything when you can just kill a criminal and wait for him to turn.

Because that makes too much sense and we wouldn't see the magnificent seven killing WWs and zombies.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109116 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:10 am to
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:10 am to
i just assummed rhaegar wanted Lyanna protected at the tower by his best men because of course he would and we get to see Arthur Dayne being the most BAMF alive. Which is one of my favorite part of the series so far.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:10 am to
'You guys are discussing common sense in a show with zombies and dragons?'

Signed-
Some folks
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25911 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:10 am to
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If so, how would that work against the NK trying to reanimate him?


Beric is going to run full speed at the night king and dive into his body, causing it to explode into millions of pieces of digital code. Then something something about Gozar the Keymaster and Zuel, I think.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50732 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:11 am to
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Why would 3 of the KingsGuard be with his sister? That is the part that has never made sense to me about the whole thing. If there wasn't someone of the royal family there, why defend them with some of the best swords. They would only go with someone of the royal line


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“Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.” “Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell. “But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out. “The Kingsguard does not flee.” “Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm. “We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold. Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three. “And now it begins,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light. “No,” Ned said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.”
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