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re: GoT S7 E5 "Eastwatch" MAESTERS THREAD
Posted on 8/11/17 at 4:40 pm to blueboy
Posted on 8/11/17 at 4:40 pm to blueboy
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need special arrowheads like the ones Gendry was making for the BwB in order for their arrows to have any effect.
incorrect. bodkin arrows were widely used and were not a "special" arrowhead type. it was standard issue along with broadheads which were used on more lightly armored units. Also, bodkin arrows really werent all that effective against plate armor unless damn near point blank, and even then it had to be placed at the weakest point, usually around the joints. You can look at the battle of Poitier where the english longbowmen were largely ineffective against the french (really german) knights.
although your overall premise that the armored knights would usually prevail is correct. that is, unless the mounted archers used a feigned retreat which was common among the steppes people, whom the dothraki are modeled after. In which the archers would simply lure them into a trap where their exhausted horses would be their undoing.
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:31 pm to DoUrden
call them out (after it airs)
I've avoided those here and I don't go to reddit
if somebody guesses right though that's just the way it is there's only so many places this story can go.
the basic narrative endgame is relatively obvious so the twists will come in who people are relative to the various prophesies, not what they do.
I've avoided those here and I don't go to reddit
if somebody guesses right though that's just the way it is there's only so many places this story can go.
the basic narrative endgame is relatively obvious so the twists will come in who people are relative to the various prophesies, not what they do.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:48 pm to saintsfan92612
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Gendry
No shite, the actor is 30 years old, now.
Of course, Kit, Alfie and Emilia are all in their 30s, now.
Where does the time go?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:48 pm to beerJeep
Damn, then Bernard Cornwell done steered me wrong. Dude gushed on about how great bodkins were.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:57 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:40 pm to OMLandshark
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OMLandshark
While most here don't seem to like your fan faction (based on downvotes), you at least do more GoT/ASOIAF writing in a day than GRRM does in months.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:05 pm to Scoob
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Would you prefer extinction, to Hitler? Hitler's awful, but is mortal and would eventually die, and future generations could change things. Extinction is permanent and irreversible.
A general piece of advice: NEVER choose Hitler.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:12 pm to Sus-Scrofa
Unless the magic in the walls which cause it to fall was put in the wall by the people who built the wall and who now approach it from the North.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:29 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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GRRM has stated that he won't let another author finish for him so i wouldn't hold out hope for that avenue fwiw.
I don't care about what that lazy prick thinks now, and I certainly won't care when he's dead.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:31 pm to beerJeep
quote:Not among primitive, nomadic cultures.
it was standard issue along with broadheads which were used on more lightly armored units
quote:I'm glad we agree.
Also, bodkin arrows really werent all that effective against plate armor unless damn near point blank, and even then it had to be placed at the weakest point, usually around the joints.
quote:Masturbation.
that is, unless the mounted archers used a feigned retreat which was common among the steppes people, whom the dothraki are modeled after. In which the archers would simply lure them into a trap where their exhausted horses would be their undoing.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:37 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
Keep a list for those of you who read the spoilers and if they're way too on point: Head, Spikes, Walls.
What? No rape?
In this instance I think it's appropriate.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:48 pm to PsychTiger
If Ned's crew had chainmail head / neck armor they could have survived Dayne at the TOK.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:53 pm to weagle99
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If Ned's crew had chainmail head / neck armor they could have survived Dayne at the TOK.
Umm, Dayne had Dawn, so I'm not sure why you can say that. It's every bit as sharp and dangerous as Valyrian Steel, if not more so.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:07 pm to OMLandshark
Did he have Dawn in the show?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:10 pm to PsychTiger
Yep. Just looked it up on the Wiki.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:18 pm to OMLandshark
The promotional pics HBO releases every week are generally kind of underwhelming. And this one in the batch they released today doesn't really give any plot info.
But I absolutely love seeing the wolf pieces on the war table in this shot of Jon and Davos. Not sure if they showed those before and I just missed them but for some reason I'm inordinately excited about seeing them on there.
But I absolutely love seeing the wolf pieces on the war table in this shot of Jon and Davos. Not sure if they showed those before and I just missed them but for some reason I'm inordinately excited about seeing them on there.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:20 pm to Methuselah
The Wolves are at the Wall!!!
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:44 pm to BlackenedOut
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Unless the magic in the walls which cause it to fall was put in the wall by the people who built the wall and who now approach it from the North.
That was always the most interesting theory that never gets any traction.
The wall wasn't built by men to keep the WW's out, it was built by the WW's to keep men out.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:47 pm to PsychTiger
I wonder what kind of piece they would use if they wanted to represent the Night's Watch on one of those war tables?
Maybe a black shield and sword after their words: "I am the sword in the darkness" ... "I am the shield that guards the realms of men." Or maybe a crow.
Maybe a black shield and sword after their words: "I am the sword in the darkness" ... "I am the shield that guards the realms of men." Or maybe a crow.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:29 pm to RuLSU
quote:If so, it's failing badly. The Wildings have been up there a long time.
quote:
Unless the magic in the walls which cause it to fall was put in the wall by the people who built the wall and who now approach it from the North.
That was always the most interesting theory that never gets any traction.
The wall wasn't built by men to keep the WW's out, it was built by the WW's to keep men out.
And speaking of the Wildlings and the Wall keeping men out, didn't Stannis bring a large force North of the Wall to rout Mance?
On the other hand, the Wall has managed to keep the WW and the wights at bay, and Benjen can't cross it because of the spells.
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