re: GoT S7 E4 "The Spoils of War" MAESTERS Thread

That is why they had to dumb it down and cause her to have losses to bring in the dragons in the first place.

She already was the clear winner, but that makes for a horrible ending (and boring). She would have won this war without every using her dragons if things wouldn't have gone south with Euron and the sacking of HighGarden.

Now, we will get to see more Dragonfire for the rest of the show almost assuredly. Their importance was ramp up to the nth degree after the last episode.

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That is why they had to dumb it down and cause her to have losses to bring in the dragons in the first place.

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Yeah, she had way too much going for her in the show. I think they'll take care of this in the books by having the Reach, Dorne, and the Stormlands join with Aegon, and I think her fleet will be near depleted by the time she arrives in Westeros.

We've all assumed they'd wrap up the Iron Throne thread, before addressing the White Walkers. 2 seasons, 2 conflicts.

I suppose it's possible they don't, and both run to the last episode...
just for fun: Qyburn comes up with a plan to stop the WW somewhere. Maybe at the Neck, with Wildfire.
Cersei faces an overwhelming army led by Dany, and no forces capable of pushing her back off the continent. She also faces the North in continued rebellion against the Throne, and now coming into alliance with Dany against her.
The WW, strategically, are a gift from the gods for her: this completely removes the North as a threat to her (at least as a threat to her claim of the Throne), and it flips the table on Dany's armies. Dany's no longer laying seige to KL, she's engaged in a desparate war on her Northern front (I think Dothraki with dragonglass arrows can hold the line), with her back open to Cersei's raids.

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Bran tells him of his heritage, and after considering things, Jon tells Bran not to spread this. He bends the knee and allows Dany to be Queen, and remains Warden of the North. He and Bran (and maybe Sansa and Arya) understand that he has the greater claim, but he will neither oppose Dany in battle ("she has a good heart", he says), nor accept her advances to wed her, and risk continuing the Mad King born of incest cycle. He tells his family he was raised by Ned Stark and that's who he considers himself, not a Targaryen but a man of the North. And he takes this knowledge with him to the grave.

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm assuming whoever sits on the Throne will need heirs. I'm trying to think back... isn't Dany sterile after the issue with Kal Drogo and the pyre? For some reason I thought that was the case.
Ok, I looked it up, this is what I found:

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When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, when the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. Only then would her womb quicken once again...

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Hmmm... possible answers to this riddle.
Wildfire or dragonfire across the land, lighting up the night (Winter?) like the sun rising. Starting in the West... Casterly Rock (she already holds it) or Oldtown, maybe. East- KL, maybe the Vale (which would address the 'mountains blow in the wind' part). We know the Vale is safe from men, but mountainous terrain is nothing the Night King has problems with. So I see Robin and LF sitting in their castle thinking they're safe, falling to the WW's, at some point. And maybe a long, long pass of dragon sweeps by 3 riders, which cranks up Dany's fertility.

Or, heck, maybe a Second Sons reference (play on words), Daario comes to the rescue at Casterly Rock or Oldtown, and sweeps across the land. Somehow I doubt that, but trying to explore all options.

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. isn't Dany sterile after the issue with Kal Drogo and the pyre? For some reason I thought that was the case.

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I seem to recall in the book she started having moonblood again.

Dickon and Robert missed out on the Bronn school of deathshitting

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so if danaerys has to be on dragon-back in the field, can she or can she not deploy the other two, without riders?

my memory of the description of the previous conquest(s)-by-dragon includes riders, but didnt she use the other two against the slaver fleet in essos? anyone got a better description of how ths is supposed to work?

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She deployed all three against the slaver's fleet at Meereen, but that was a little different. Meereen had no ships, so anything in the water was a target.

Battle in last episode required more precision, dragons randomly blasting shite on the field could cut her Dothraki horde in half. I think the dragons are smart, but not THAT smart, and you'd need a rider to properly aim them.

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Infertile women can have periods.

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No shite, but in the book, it was a matter of significance for Dany.