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re: GoT S7 E4 "The Spoils of War" MAESTERS Thread
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:04 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:04 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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I think the TER is sort of a watcher of current events and will not actively participate in changing the course of events. That is what the previous TER was teaching him. He sort of a Night Watch 'seer'. He takes no part in world events.
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Good question. After thinking about it I come to realize that the previous TER was secluded from the world. When Bran was being shown his powers in going to the past, he was warned of altering events.
Now that Bran can be involved in world events, he could be persuaded to be an advisor to Jon/Dany.
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I think the TER is sort of a watcher of current events and will not actively participate in changing the course of events. That is what the previous TER was teaching him. He sort of a Night Watch 'seer'. He takes no part in world events.
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Well then wtf is the point of being TER if you don't use the powers?
Good question. After thinking about it I come to realize that the previous TER was secluded from the world. When Bran was being shown his powers in going to the past, he was warned of altering events.
Now that Bran can be involved in world events, he could be persuaded to be an advisor to Jon/Dany.
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:11 pm to funnystuff
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We've already established that Bran/TER can alter the past with the hold the door incident. If even the past isn't set in stone, then certainly the future isn't.
He didn't "alter" the past. He was part of the past. The past is already set in stone. Bran didn't change anything. He was always there and Hodor always freaked out and could only say "Hodor" after that moment.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:19 pm to blueboy
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Horrible episode
Dude new week same shite!! Clearly you have better things to do! If you don't....... WOW!
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:24 pm to blueboy
Hmm, another thing about the concept of the sun rising in the West and setting in the East...
we do occasionally get reminded of how much wildfire is stored at KL.
I thought about a long pass with dragonfire, but rolling across a whole continent (even at the Neck) on full burn is asking a LOT of three dragons.
But in theory, they could fly that route. And in theory, they could also spray it... rig up some form of carrying bags, and sprinkle a little wildfire from above, and after it's been spread, a quick blast could light the whole route up. It'd be like seeding the clouds.
Tyrion has done this to a smaller scale, it's how he defeated Stannis while he was the Hand. He'd know about the stores, and how they could be used.
we do occasionally get reminded of how much wildfire is stored at KL.
I thought about a long pass with dragonfire, but rolling across a whole continent (even at the Neck) on full burn is asking a LOT of three dragons.
But in theory, they could fly that route. And in theory, they could also spray it... rig up some form of carrying bags, and sprinkle a little wildfire from above, and after it's been spread, a quick blast could light the whole route up. It'd be like seeding the clouds.
Tyrion has done this to a smaller scale, it's how he defeated Stannis while he was the Hand. He'd know about the stores, and how they could be used.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:28 pm to USMCTIGER1970
quote:Stop taking the bait then
Dude new week same shite!! Clearly you have better things to do! If you don't....... WOW!
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:30 pm to J Murdah
I am thinking we dont get the Bran tells Jon he is targaryn talk until next season. Jon goes straight to Eastwatch & the Wall, meets up with the Brotherhood to set up the finale.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:30 pm to TideWarrior
Sansa will outlast them all. Arya will die either in the last episode or the 2nd to last episode. Arya just bailed on the faceless men after they taught her so much. She owes a debt to the many faced god. A debt that can only be paid with her life. She will not survive the end of the show.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:35 pm to USMCTIGER1970
quote:Actually, this is the first time I've said I didn't like an episode. I didn't exactly dislike all of it, just the goofy parts at Dragonstone. Go invent some shite about someone else.
Dude new week same shite!! Clearly you have better things to do! If you don't....... WOW!
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:39 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Theon is a dickless pussy
Theon = Valonqar?
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:58 pm to AggieDub14
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Arya just bailed on the faceless men after they taught her so much. She owes a debt to the many faced god. A debt that can only be paid with her life. She will not survive the end of the show.
When arya left them Jaqen H'ghar told her that she is finally no one. You can't really collect a debt from no one. The only debt I know of was when she killed someone she wasn't supposed to then he took her vision to repay the debt.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:00 pm to AMS
Pretty sure killing the waif was fulfilling the debt
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:03 pm to AggieDub14
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Arya just bailed on the faceless men after they taught her so much. She owes a debt to the many faced god. A debt that can only be paid with her life.
I'm not so sure this is true. Someone threw out a crackpot theory in this thread that Arya's first instructor Syrio might have actually been Ja'quen (she told Brienne that she was trained by no one). If that's true they went out of their way to recruit Arya. What does the Many Faced God want? He is the God of Death so he has his followers kill those who deserve to die. I think Arya made her quota this month.
You currently have 2 of the major religions actively engaged in the War against the White Walkers. The Old Gods (the ones helping Bran) and the Lord of Light has quite a few players in the game as well. If any God should not like the Night King controlling death and bringing death to so many innocents, it seems like it'd be the Many Faced God of Death. So perhaps they recruited Arya as their contribution to the coming war effort.
All of that isn't to say she won't die near the end, but I expect she'll play a pivotal role not just in the War for the 7 Kingdoms, but in the War against the White Walkers as well.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:08 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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Most species of what?
Since my topic was dragons, I can see where you could be challenging where in the Hell I pulled stats on sexual dimorphism in a species that doesn't exist.
Reptiles is a logical assumption, as it would be the logical class dragons would fall into, but I was referring to the entire Kingdom Animalia...and while I may be guilty of misleading a bit - because it is specifically Class Insectae in which the female rules in size almost across the board - Insectae contains the largest number of (identified) individual, different species with separate sexes AND total number of individuals on the planet.
So, my statement: "The female, in most species, is larger." is...not technically incorrect.
shite-assed Huff Post is the only source I can find quickly with a somewhat relevant graph:
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:15 pm to Byron Bojangles III
My point is that she has repayed the debt. I think the debt was payed by her vision, and she gradually earned her vision back. Killing the waif was more like a final test to become no one.
I was just responding to the fact that she does not owe them anything, either way we argue it, the debt is still payed off.
I was just responding to the fact that she does not owe them anything, either way we argue it, the debt is still payed off.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:18 pm to TigerinATL
The many faced god is the Lord of light. And the old gods. And the seven. And there isn't a quota. It isn't just go kill peeps. They get contracts in Bravos.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:21 pm to AMS
I am not sure how the Starks and Baratheons finish in all this. We currently have Sansa(who is Bolton now), Bran is the TER and Arya is no one. Gendry as far we know is the last Baratheon(half) but he is still rowing around somewhere and the only one that has avoided Euron's fleet. I guess technically Cersei is a Baratheon as well.
I just remember one of the opening scenes in both the book and series is when they found the dead stag(Baratheon sigil) and the dead direwolf(Stark sigil). It just seems that it had some meaning overall. Who knows maybe the dead stag shows the future of the end to Robert and the pups are the children surviving
I just remember one of the opening scenes in both the book and series is when they found the dead stag(Baratheon sigil) and the dead direwolf(Stark sigil). It just seems that it had some meaning overall. Who knows maybe the dead stag shows the future of the end to Robert and the pups are the children surviving
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:22 pm to AggieDub14
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. A debt that can only be paid with her life.
Also it's a debt that can only be paid with "a" life not her life
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:24 pm to Byron Bojangles III
I think after she bailed on them and broke the rules, they are gonna come for her. That's well within the realm of possibilities and if Arya is gonna die that's probably how it happens.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:25 pm to TideWarrior
Sansa is Lady Stark. They call her that in S7E4 when Arya is at the gates.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:26 pm to TideWarrior
Baratheon line is pretty much dead already.
Sansa maybe a Bolton but everyone still views her as a Stark.
Sansa maybe a Bolton but everyone still views her as a Stark.
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