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re: George R.R. Martin down to his last 500 pages on Winds of Winter

Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:11 pm to
I just don't care any more
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:11 pm to
I wonder if the hardcore book readers are somewhat happy to have watched the show and seen the bullshite that it’s gonna end with and that it won’t be as hard to take if the books ever do get finished
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:12 pm to
Martin has stated he has it in his estate that no one can finish it but him.

I'd prefer Sanderson to keep focusing on the Cosmere
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:13 pm to
I read all the books one summer and was pumped for this book. That was 2013. Almost 10 years ago.

Just missed me by a decade.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:19 pm to
How do you think I feel. I started reading these in 2000

I gave up quite a long time ago
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:23 pm to
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How do you think I feel. I started reading these in 2000

I gave up quite a long time ago


Same here.
Posted by Upperdecker
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:29 pm to
I’m not a writer but 500 pages when you have a good outline of the story already drafted seems doable in less than half a year for sure
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:35 pm to
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do the book fans even care anymore at this point? genuine question.



no but i am a lot busier now than when i read the books
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:46 pm to
I refuse to believe the show ended how George plans to end it. I’ll continue to hold out hope.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:51 pm to
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I refuse to believe the show ended how George plans to end it. I’ll continue to hold out hope.



not nearly enough time was spent on the King Bran's first buffet or Dany's first meal in Westeros
Posted by bodask42
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:59 pm to
1150 pages in, 500 to go….

How about make a Part 1 and a Part 2 and give us the first 800-1000 pages. Just find a good stop point and break it up. A little messy, but seems like the obvious thing to do at this point.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:00 pm to
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I’m not a writer but 500 pages when you have a good outline of the story already drafted seems doable in less than half a year for sure



If you have a good work ethic, sure. When has this fricker ever shown to have that?
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:04 pm to
He’s been saying he’s close for a decade.

This is just some more bullshite from him to get the suckers to buy whatever ASOIF spin off he’s working on.

The main series will never be finished, and he shouldn’t get pissy with the fans that made him rich for being frustrated about it.

Eta- I also doubt he’s got 1,100 pages. He’s probably still sitting on his outline and some doodles of food and sex scenes.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:06 pm to
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I refuse to believe the show ended how George plans to end it. I’ll continue to hold out hope.

Really? You think it’s just a coincidence that Bran is the first pov chapter?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:15 pm to
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I dont even care anymore, and I suspect a lot of other people are in the same boat. This is a book that I would have pre-ordered a hardback of, full stop a few years ago. Now I can pretty much say with certainty that I'm going to wait to read all the inevitably terrible reviews it's going to get, then probably eventually buy a used copy somewhere. The zeitgeist has moved on, and GRRM has only himself to blame.



I suspect he's lying out of his arse about his progress.

Just a couple years ago he told his own publisher it was ready for editing and to be published before Christmas of that year.

October came and he was "Not done yet"
November came and he was "Not done yet"
December came and he was "Not done yet"

Then he finally came out and said he wasn't near being done. And that's where it's been for years.

So I don't buy his 500 pages left bullshite.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:17 pm to
So WoW is going to be 2-3x as long as any of the other books and after 11 years he’s roughly 2/3 of the way through?

We’d be lucky to get this by 2030, if ever. No way in hell does he finish the last one before GRRM’s death. He’s already 74.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
108047 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

He’s been saying he’s close for a decade.

This is just some more bullshite from him to get the suckers to buy whatever ASOIF spin off he’s working on.

The main series will never be finished, and he shouldn’t get pissy with the fans that made him rich for being frustrated about it.

Eta- I also doubt he’s got 1,100 pages. He’s probably still sitting on his outline and some doodles of food and sex scenes.


What's hilarious is the interviewer mentioned that he should split up the book (if it's 1100+ pages) to publish what he has and he just fricking gaslighted the guy.

He's such a douche.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:23 pm to
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Martin has frequently expressed that he’s exasperated with fans and interviewers constantly nagging him about his slow progress on The Winds of Winter


At his age and BMI, exasperation could kill him.

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At least Scott Lynch has absolutely crippling anxiety that he finally got under control.



He supposedly got it under control 2 years ago, and still no word on Thorn of Emberlain. Granted, the guy is a wreck - buying a house was so nerve racking for him, he completely stopped writing for a year - but he could probably spend less time bitching about Trump on twitter and sexually harrassing young and upcoming writers, and spend a little more time finishing the fricking book.
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:39 pm to
It’s sad that Martin refused to finish the books. If he had finished the story the right way and the last book coincided with the last season of the show (it even could haven been extended for a season or 2), he could have a bonafide IP empire in GoT. But instead we get D&D tanking the show and Martin not finishing the original story. At least we have Targaryen history to work off of.
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
72131 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:57 pm to
frick this whole world. Didn’t watch HOTD. Likely won’t read these at this point. I simply don’t care enough about Westeros now. I read the first 5 like my life depended on it too
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 2:59 pm
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