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re: Game of Thrones S8E5 "The Bells" is officially the worst reviewed GOT episode yet
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:17 pm to RB10
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:17 pm to RB10
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How about something more than a facial expression from her?
I liked that part and thought Clarke (to my surprise) did a great job conveying a ton with just her expressions. Some cheesy dialogue I feel would have felt hollow like an out of place battle cry.
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:17 pm to RollTide1987
Worse than any of the dreg from season 5?
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:17 pm to SammyTiger
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She was showing grief. TV is a visual medium.
Like I said, you got entertained by some explosions and a long action sequence. Good for you.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:19 pm to SammyTiger
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ive lost 2 dragon children
Jorah is dead
Missy is dead
My army was decimated defending these people
I did The right thing and now The people I saved like Jon Snow Better
Sansa’s Against me after all I did.
The common folk aren’t flicking to me.
My advisors are plotting against me.
No one in Westeros has accepted me.
All I have is fear to rule on.
All of this, but one of the dragons happens in one episode. There's no time to process the individual events, it's lumped into one big bad thing happened and now Dany is depressed, angry, and more paranoid. Perfectly logical. Just doesn't allow the audience to have an empathetic response to the weight of each of the parts.
So when you get to the logical end point you don't empathize enough with her mental state and it just makes sense instead of the tragic climax of her journey.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:19 pm to RB10
If you’re not entertained why watch?
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:19 pm to RB10
Like I said you’re too dumb to see a sad person and know they’re sad.
You need aparentlynto he told that they’re sad.
You need aparentlynto he told that they’re sad.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:20 pm to RB10
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How about something more than a facial expression from her?
You do realize she gave zero dialogue about losing either of her dragon, Jorah or Missandei, right?
Hell, have her have a big scene with Jon or somebody where she is understandably emotional, lashing out in anger at Cercei for what she had just done, but have it slowly shift to a hatred for everyone that supports her.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:22 pm to BOSCEAUX
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I liked that part and thought Clarke (to my surprise) did a great job conveying a ton with just her expressions. Some cheesy dialogue I feel would have felt hollow like an out of place battle cry.
I don't think a big dialogue would have been good, but a very cold and level headed "Fear then" right before she took off would have been badass. Not loud or anything, just a final confirmation and call back to the conversation with Jon.
JMO though. I think that part overall was done well, especially with the subtle music.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:24 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I’ll say maybe something like that would have been good, but people want a lot of weird things that I dont Think fit and would just lower the tension of the moment
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:24 pm to Duke
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All of this, but one of the dragons happens in one episode. There's no time to process the individual events, it's lumped into one big bad thing happened and now Dany is depressed, angry, and more paranoid. Perfectly logical. Just doesn't allow the audience to have an empathetic response to the weight of each of the parts.
So when you get to the logical end point you don't empathize enough with her mental state and it just makes sense instead of the tragic climax of her journey.
Bingo. It's just assumed the character gets to that end point. The audience really isn't brought along to that point. They are basically just told we are here now.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:25 pm to Duke
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All of this, but one of the dragons happens in one episode. There's no time to process the individual events, it's lumped into one big bad thing happened and now Dany is depressed, angry, and more paranoid. Perfectly logical. Just doesn't allow the audience to have an empathetic response to the weight of each of the parts.
So when you get to the logical end point you don't empathize enough with her mental state and it just makes sense instead of the tragic climax of her journey.
Why kill all the innocents though? Why not just fly straight to the Red Keep and burn that sonabitch to the ground instead of the entire damn city?
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:26 pm to Korin
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Why kill all the innocents though? Why not just fly straight to the Red Keep and burn that sonabitch to the ground instead of the entire damn city?
I don't get that either. Her anger should have been, justifiably, at Cercei.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:28 pm to Korin
She wants to send a message to everyone that she doesn’t care and will kill whoever she needs to.
Destroying your enemy makes that point
Destroy the red keep makes that point better
Destroying KL makes the point even more.
Dany doesn’t care about the little people at that point. She cares about the realm
Knowing she’s not someone to frick with.
Destroying your enemy makes that point
Destroy the red keep makes that point better
Destroying KL makes the point even more.
Dany doesn’t care about the little people at that point. She cares about the realm
Knowing she’s not someone to frick with.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:30 pm to Korin
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Why kill all the innocents though? Why not just fly straight to the Red Keep and burn that sonabitch to the ground instead of the entire damn city?
This is what we want to know, but didn’t get.
We’re stupid though because......well.......reasons
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:31 pm to SammyTiger
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She wants to send a message to everyone that she doesn’t care and will kill whoever she needs to. Destroying your enemy makes that point Destroy the red keep makes that point better Destroying KL makes the point even more. Dany doesn’t care about the little people at that point. She cares about the realm Knowing she’s not someone to frick with.
All assumptions because the depth to make an accurate judgement wasn’t provided.
You’re right. There were no pace issues though.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:33 pm to RB10
I’ll explain it to you because they didn’t do a close up of Dany and have her tell the camera hermlotivations.
When she tells Jon “Fear it is” she means she is going to rule with fear.
When she did something scary it was to incite fear so she could rule.
This is a VERY easy connection to make.
When she tells Jon “Fear it is” she means she is going to rule with fear.
When she did something scary it was to incite fear so she could rule.
This is a VERY easy connection to make.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:35 pm to Korin
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Why kill all the innocents though? Why not just fly straight to the Red Keep and burn that sonabitch to the ground instead of the entire damn city?
If you're being rational, you'd obviously do that.
I'm assuming she's in a grief and rage blackout at this point, so just concerned with inflicting maximum pain.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:36 pm to SammyTiger
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This is a VERY easy connection to make.
A public execution of the Lannister’s and their army would be putting fear into the populace. Murdering everyone in the city all is beyond that. There’s a deeper reason for it, and none of us know what it is because the writers of the show probably knew certain people would eat the shite up because it was good action.
You’re making connections where there are none and then talking down to other people for not making the same exact nonexistent connections.
It’s quite amazing, to be honest.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:37 pm to SammyTiger
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This is a VERY easy connection to make.
That's a very large leap to take from i'm going to maintain power via fear instead of the love of my subjects, and mass genocide torching the entire capital city.
Especially for a character to make this leap in all of about a day. Again, poor flow.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 5:38 pm to RB10
So you’re saying there is no connection between her telling Jon she will rule through fear and her terrorizing the populace she wants to rule through fear.
Yeah there are a lot of ways to incite fear.
But you can’t sit there and tell me burning King’s Landing didn’t incite fear.
Yeah there are a lot of ways to incite fear.
But you can’t sit there and tell me burning King’s Landing didn’t incite fear.
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