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re: Game of Thrones S8E5 "The Bells" is officially the worst reviewed GOT episode yet

Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:41 pm to
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As a television watcher I can See someone lose their best friend in one episode, and look disheveled in the next and assume she’s had a rough couple of days.


Which clearly justifies the leap she made from what she was to silver haired hitler.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:41 pm to
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they have foreshadowed that she can be cruel, but not evil

they have shown that she can be angry and emotional, but not crazy


Executing people that she has no idea if they are innocent like she did with the 163 masters is crazy.

Executing nobles that she knows are likely innocent as she did when she wanted the Sons of the Harpy to stop is evil.

Forcing a man to either marry her or be killed by her dragons is evil and crazy.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:41 pm to
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I think They did.

I feel Like she physically looks disheveled. She’s dealing with other people in a paranoid manner.


That pretty much all happened in between episode 4 & 5 though. We first see her and she is already disheveled from her grieving. I wouldn't call her interactions paranoid though at that point. Her meeting with everyone was not a paranoid one. She was very cold and focused. Her statement to Tyrion before he leaves was not one of paranoia. She was very clear headed at that point.

Then we leap to burning everyone to the ground.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:42 pm to
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I have issues with several things this season but reasoning around Dany going ape shite isn’t one of them.


Reasoning isn’t the issue. The pace of it is.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:42 pm to
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ETA: Also at these losers that are 33 pages into a thread and still downvoting every post they disagree with


Yeah I noticed this as I was reading through this thing.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:43 pm to
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Executing people that she has no idea if they are innocent like she did with the 163 masters is crazy.


To be fair they are massive slave owners, so not exactly all that innocent.

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Executing nobles that she knows are likely innocent as she did when she wanted the Sons of the Harpy to stop is evil.


The Tarleys refused to bend the knee. Big difference.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:44 pm to
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Dude, she did bad things to bad people. Obviously it's within her character to do it to hundreds of thousands of totally innocent people. This is good writing


So Jon Snow killed that rapist, is it in his nature to go put his sword in an innocent’s chest as well?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:45 pm to
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Reasoning isn’t the issue. The pace of it is.


It is amazing how many don't understand this.


Dany went mad because she's lost two dragons, two best friends, Jon is stone walling her, she lost her best claim to the throne, and her advisers hid a secret from her about her claim to the throne.

It definitely makes sense that she would lose control.

The way all those events transpired and culminated in her burning down KL was done very sloppy, especially the dragons and Missandie.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 4:47 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:46 pm to
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So Jon Snow killed that rapist, is it in his nature to go put his sword in an innocent’s chest as well?


Obviously. Did you need it spoon fed to you?
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:46 pm to
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So is that the complaint? More episodes to drag out this thing?


I’m sorry, have you watched Game of Thrones? This is what made the show great.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:47 pm to
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Obviously. Did you need it spoon fed to you?


Ummm, it is absolutely not in Jon’s nature to kill innocents.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:47 pm to
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Ummm, it is absolutely not in Jon’s nature to kill innocents.


You should probably adjust your sarcasm meter.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:48 pm to
So you think her immediately calling out JS for betraying her wasn’t paranoid?

Because that’s the first scene with her in the last episode when Tyrion goes to talk to hwr
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:49 pm to
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The way all those events transpired and culminated in her burning down KL was done very sloppy, especially the dragons and Missandie.


It’s not the outcome that bothers us. It’s the steps that were taken, and how they were taken. There are massive leaps of logic that needed much more depth than what was given.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:51 pm to
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So you think her immediately calling out JS for betraying her wasn’t paranoid?


What was paranoid about it?
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:51 pm to
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So you think her immediately calling out JS for betraying her wasn’t paranoid?

Because that’s the first scene with her in the last episode when Tyrion goes to talk to hwr


So we get the first glimpse of paranoia in the same episode that she burns a city to the ground.

You’re right. No pace issues there.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:52 pm to
I dont Think the leaps of logic are that great.

She’s completely abandoned the idea that the people will love her.

She sees that the man she loves will ultimately become a Rivals whether he wants to or not, and he won’t listen to her to prevent it.

Her advisors are betraying her.

Her best friend died.

And she decides that being soft has cost her too much and listening to Tyrion has cost her too much for nothing and that she is gonna rule with fear.

That’s not hard logic to follow. It’s also not hard logic
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:52 pm to
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Reasoning isn’t the issue. The pace of it is.


I guess I look at it as her slow fall into madness using violence to get what she wants when others beg her to take a more reserved approach and then we get the big triggers the past two seasons that are too much for her fragile psyche and ego to handle. Without people to rein her in it was obvious at least to me it wouldn’t take much more than rejection and a something that threatened her claim to completely break her. Just my opinion.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 4:53 pm to
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So you think her immediately calling out JS for betraying her wasn’t paranoid?



I thought yall were saying early in the thread that it was a betrayal. How is it paranoid if it is the turth?
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