re: Game of Thrones S8 E2 "A Knight of Seven Kingdoms." Official Thread

You should have critiqued your podcast this thoroughly


The scene with Davos, Gilly and the little girl was good. Not sure what there was to laugh at

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That is the one thing I didn't understand about the last two episodes...why she needed that weapon made when she already had the VS dagger.

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Daggers are tiny and spears are big? Which would you rather have in a fight? Plus she spent her time in Braavos fighting the Waif with a spear sized stick so she's better with it.

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I saw plenty of book readers (r/asoiaf sub which are almost all book readers) that were praising yesterday’s episode. Just saying

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Same with Watchers on the Wall. Lots and lots of people saying they really enjoyed it.

In many ways, TD is it's own subculture. Nothing wrong with that, but it does not really reflect the greater fandom or even the greater casual viewership.

Plus, there are some posters who are just dyed in the wool contrarians. Again, nothing really wrong with that. It can make for some interesting conversations from time to time.

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After they got all that dragonglass last season, you didn't think smithing it into usable weapons would be relevant?

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as relevant as the smithing for the war of the 5 kings, which wasn't really shown at all

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You seem hellbent on pointing out what is "necessary" versus not. And that is a slippery slope, because like it or not, none of this is necessary

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this is primarily within the context of fan service

no. no literature or film is necessary, but that's a larger scope than the question

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You would've been bitching about them rushing that and saying shite like "So Arya and Jon haven't seen each other in almost a decade, and they don't even show them hugging it out and talking???"

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not true. i don't care nearly as much about what isn't shown as much as what is shown

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shite, I would contend that most of Dany's storylines across the Narrow Sea were almost literally pointless and she could've been in the exact same spot she is now with half the screen time.

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yes. Dany's story is bad and has always been a major weak point of the show (and books)

she's been a punching bag ever since they left Qarth

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I mean, it was almost "campy" to see Sam give his family sword to Jorah. But in the context of the show, it made 100% sense.

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it REALLY didn't

but i'm not trying to nit pick at random stupid stuff

except Gilly. that shite was stupid

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I didn't understand the Dany/Sansa scene. Jon has already bent the knee. It is a done deal.

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First of all, Jon's power was instantly diminished the moment he bent the knee. He is no longer the King in the North. He's not the Lord of Winterfell. He's basically nothing.

Second, Dany loves(d) Jon. She knows that she needs other Starks with her if she wants that relationship to progress, particularly the Lady of Winterfell. Sansa with that title has more claim to the loyalty of the North than Jon does now.

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ETA: I also wondered if, as a Faceless Man, she could use the face(s) of any of the dead to get close to the NK. No idea how that works, or if it could though.

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how the show set it up (using the faces of they had stored up), i don't think so but that's an interesting question

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First of all, Jon's power was instantly diminished the moment he bent the knee. He is no longer the King in the North. He's not the Lord of Winterfell. He's basically nothing.

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He's Warden of the North. Dany said so in the first minute of this episode.

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It reminded me of the shitty ending from Kingdom of Heaven where Balian starts knighting everyone at the end. And I love that movie but that was so cheesy.

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i almost brought up KOH earlier in this thread (B/c i got the director's cut on blu ray last week). i usually quit after the first "battle" (when Saladin marches and they come to terms right before battle) b/c the end is cringe

kind of like GOT i really wish they didn't feel like they HAD to have some big battle at the end

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not really. they've had a war across the entire continent. how often did you think about the blacksmiths making those weapons?

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I don't think I even thought of that one time, but once it was established that dragon glass was one of only a few things that could kill white walkers it became important. You know it is too

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ou missed my point. That is a title given by Dany.

She needs the loyalty of the North. The North gave Jon the title of King in the North and he very quickly discarded it and bent the knee.

Dany needs Sansa at this point as much as she needs Jon, if not more, to secure Northern support.

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half an episode delving into the details of this is the interesting stuff that we lose out on