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re: Game of Thrones S6:E6 "Blood of My Blood" (reader thread) (NO LEAKS!)
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:41 am to JumpingTheShark
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:41 am to JumpingTheShark
I think it will happen at winterfell so there's a long way to go.
last episode: wall falls and Jon snow finds his mommy
last episode: wall falls and Jon snow finds his mommy
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Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:41 am to ohiovol
quote:If you look around the internet, there is a treatment he wrote to publishers about what was supposed to be a trilogy where he explains how the entire story unfolds.
1991, and I believe he previously said he has known the ending since then
He's likely changed it up but you can still see what his original intent and ending was.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:43 am to Bamatab
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Although it'll be interesting to see if the Night's King is also vulnerable to Valyrian steel, or if he has to be killed by dragon glass since he is the one White Walker that was actually created with dragon glass.
Well this makes so much sense it almost seems like a spoiler (that was not sarcasm). I can envision this being a big part in the final battle. Everyone thinks the valyrian steel sword is about to smite down the NK, then Jon's sword fails and then the High Sparrow (
) sneaks up behind and stabs him in the neck with a dragon glass blade (this part was sarcasm)
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:45 am to CBandits82
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What is the consensus with everyone on the Umbers (and maybe Karstarks)?
When we see them, last, in the books - the Umbers were split, only because the Greatjon was hostage for their continued good behavior. The Karstarks were pretending to rally to Stannis, but it was an open secret they backed the Boltons (or were they?) And the Manderlys were inside the wall of Winterfell (with Mance and the Spearwives) - waiting for the opportunity to turn their cloaks.
So - at this point, we've never met Wyman Manderly on the show and they've only been mentioned in passing. The Davos-Skagos mission to find Rickon has been truncated (apparently) and replaced with what we have.
SO - if Osha took the hit for Mance and the Spearwives, SJU could certainly be filling the Wyman Manderly role for the show and is just biding his time. I'm not sure what to think of theories of a "fake" Rickon and Shaggydog - it just seems like an implausible risk to bring the real Rickon to Winterfell - I get Osha - that's a solid gamble. She knows Winterfell, can handle herself, well enough, and in a one-on-one situation with Ramsay - she had a slim chance of ending the Bolton dynasty right there - not a high percentage play, but not a halfcourt shot, either.
SO, at this point, I still think that SJU is taking the place of Manderly as a Stark loyalist with some level of force inside Winterfell, waiting for the GNC to kick off. Maybe Rickon ordered this and maybe he willingly put himself in this situation. The book Rickon would be far too young for this, but series Rickon it's at least plausible.
If not, why wouldn't he formally turn his cloak, bend the knee and swear fealty to Ramsay?
This post was edited on 5/27/16 at 9:47 am
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:45 am to CBandits82
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Would be one of the biggest let downs of all time if they start introducing time travel as a regular occurrence on Game of Thrones.
Hodor was already Hodor. The ink was dry. Bran cant go "back" and change anything that isnt already part of the present/future.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:46 am to guedeaux
Bessie's incredible tits secretly are made of dragon glass and she plants a motorboat on the Nights King and is actually the prince that was promised. Hence Robert saying ,"thank the Gods for Bessie....and her tits." It is known.
Lol Bessie will be sling in her jugs around the north like Wun Wun using those huge wooden beams to kill the wights. She will lay waste to the entire white walker army.
Lol Bessie will be sling in her jugs around the north like Wun Wun using those huge wooden beams to kill the wights. She will lay waste to the entire white walker army.
This post was edited on 5/27/16 at 9:53 am
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:48 am to JumpingTheShark
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So how do you guys think Jons parentage will be revealed to him? Not like "Bran," but specifically, how do you think it will go down? Interested what you guys think. Do you think Jon finds out prior or subsequent to winterfell battle? Would be cool if he knew before and it gave him something more tangible to fight for and he visits Lyannas crypt knowing it is his mother for the first time.
I think he finds out when he travels down into the crypts in Winterfell, but that is based mostly on the visions he has of the crypts in the books, where the Kings of Winter basically tell him he doesn't belong there. I think Ned actually built Jon a crypt which has the secret of his parentage in it.
But since I don't recall him having those dreams on the show, I'm not sure how it will be revealed there unless they just have him stumble on his crypt or something.
This post was edited on 5/27/16 at 9:57 am
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:56 am to Longclaw02
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Is there a possibility that maybe LF sent the Raven to Jon Snow acting like Ramsay?
It was brought by a person wearing the Bolton sigil.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:00 am to guedeaux
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Well this makes so much sense it almost seems like a spoiler (that was not sarcasm).
So you think I have D&D on speed dial, and they have given me the 411 on how the last season of the show goes down? Hell, the scripts haven't even been written yet.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:12 am to Bamatab
Again am I missing something on the Night King being the only one created with Obsidian. I assume the Night King or the CotF (or a combination) create all WWs through that same ritual.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:13 am to CootKilla
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It was brought by a person wearing the Bolton sigil.
I agree that having Ramsay kill Roose first, and having that explicit delivery (rather than by raven that could be from anywhere) was a specific response by D&D to the fan theories about the letter in the books.
This is what I believe will happen in the books - either Manderly's men kill Roose inside Winterfell (or maybe Mance or one of the spearwives), but - more likely, Ramsay kills Roose and frame some of those folks for it. Thus the "poisoned by our enemies" line in the show.
And he sends the letter after Theon and Faux Arya escaped.
That tracks - more or less - what we saw in the show, because we had no POV inside the walls once Theon left - we're left with the bastard letter to tell us things that may or may not have happened. They appear to be accurate to a point.
This post was edited on 5/27/16 at 10:15 am
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:14 am to CorporateTiger
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Again am I missing something on the Night King being the only one created with Obsidian. I assume the Night King or the CotF (or a combination) create all WWs through that same ritual.
Do you not remember the ritual the White Walker did with Caster's baby? I'm assuming that is how the other White Walkers were created.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:14 am to CorporateTiger
It hasn't been confirmed but based on what we have seen the NK do in the show, he can create white walkers and raise wights, so he might have personally built the entire army from nothing.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:18 am to Bamatab
quote:There is no artifact that can prove to Jon that he's the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. It has to be the as yet unseen Howland Reed.
I think Ned actually built Jon a crypt which has the secret of his parentage in it.
I think we see the conclusion of the ToJ on the show, possibly a long time before Jon finds out. The audience will know who Jon really is long before he finds out.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:21 am to Bamatab
No, you and a few others read articles on yahoo and stuff on reddit and come here and post it as your own...don't make me link the article that came out this week...your bs is almost word for word and you're passing it off as your own. Pretty hilarious.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:22 am to Bamatab
That doesn't rule out the CotF doing the ritual multiple times.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:27 am to CorporateTiger
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That doesn't rule out the CotF doing the ritual multiple times.
No it doesn't. But, assuming the origin stories are the same in the series as it will be in the novels (if revealed at all), "multiple" times doesn't make a lot of sense though. It is clear they created a biological weapon that immediately blew back on them. Eternal winter in the north (which wasn't very good for their forest lifestyle) and shortly thereafter, they joined with the first men to fight The Others.
So, while possible, I think The Others began making their own offspring (from men, it appears), almost immediately. The bulk of their fighting appears to be done by wights, which is convenient.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:29 am to CorporateTiger
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No, you and a few others read articles on yahoo and stuff on reddit and come here and post it as your own
Yeah, it was posted in last weeks episode thread. I think it is a pretty good theory though. It has always seemed like the crypts hold some sort of secret.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:31 am to Ace Midnight
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It is clear they created a biological weapon that immediately blew back on them.
There isn't any evidence the NK was an immediate blowback. He could have been a helpful ally in war for hundreds or thousands of years and it would still be in the ancient past.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:42 am to lsuguy84
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No, you and a few others read articles on yahoo and stuff on reddit and come here and post it as your own...don't make me link the article that came out this week...your bs is almost word for word and you're passing it off as your own. Pretty hilarious.
Are you for real? First off I don't even go to reddit, I just stick to Watcher's on the Wall for any spoiler news. And I make a concerted effort not to post spoilers on here, hence why I'm not getting involved in discussions about certain storylines in this thread.
Hell, the fact that since the Knight's King being able to be killed with dragons glass because he was created by dragon glass was discussed in the thread after the episode aired.
And even if I did (which I didn't) read that on reddit or somewhere, it's still just a theory since no one could even know if that actually happens since the scripts for the final season haven't even been written yet. So who cares where anyone gets any theories on what goes down as it is only a theory. Hell, R+L=J is a theory that blew up because it was discussed by people on the internet. Geez.
But for the record, the thought of the Knight's King only being able to be killed by dragon glass came to me after I watched the show. Just because other people have the same theory doesn't mean people can't come up with the same theories on their own.
ETA: Now the theory of Jon finding out about his parentage from the crypts of Winterfell did come from some theory I saw posted somewhere. But who cares since it is only a theory, and no one outside of GRRM and D&D know for sure how he'll find out about his parentage. Plus I'm pretty sure it has been discussed in the last episode thread.
This post was edited on 5/27/16 at 10:48 am
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