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Posted on 5/27/16 at 4:30 am to ohiovol
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He had the twist planned since 1991.
My God. Twenty five years later he's not done with it yet.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 6:28 am to CBandits82
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SO, I think it will be tough to replicate those events for Bran to willy-nilly go around changing things in the past. Even as it is - other folks with whom he has a connection only get a faint "whisper" when he tries to communicate with them. Now, as significant as that it - THAT isn't gamechanging the way Hodor's transformation was.
But, honestly, I think it's a one off. It would be too messy, like a time travel episode of Star Trek if it were otherwise.
I'm praying its a one off.
Unfortunately if it was a one off I just don't see the point in opening that door unnecessarily. I think we will see this sort of thing continue to play a role.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 6:35 am to Sneaky__Sally
Mad King heard whispers,
And it drove him mad
And it drove him mad
Posted on 5/27/16 at 6:43 am to Antpile Tea Bagger
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Mad King heard whispers,
And it drove him mad
This needs to die. The only one responsible for the Aerys' madness is Aerys himself. He did so much crap that led to him being a paranoid maniac.
Plus you would think if Bran actually penetrated his mind and showed him visions of the future, he would have invested much more in the Wall.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 6:46 am to CorporateTiger
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They still don't have the huge amount of dragon glass.
How much dragon glass do they really need? Dragon glass is only needed for the White Walkers, and would probably be less effective against wights than normal weapons since you have to just totally destroy a wight to stop it.
And I wonder how many White Walkers there actually are. We've only seen a handful that have been traveling with the Night's King. But we also saw the Craster sons being turned. So I guess there could be more than the handful we've seen, but there can't be that many more can there?
This post was edited on 5/27/16 at 6:48 am
Posted on 5/27/16 at 7:10 am to Bamatab
Plus there's an entire city in westeros that's basically made of dragon glass
Posted on 5/27/16 at 7:43 am to wildtigercat93
How has no one told Davos about Dragon glass killing WW yet?
Posted on 5/27/16 at 7:53 am to Byron Bojangles III
They told Stannis, and he just kind of shrugged his shoulders
Posted on 5/27/16 at 7:57 am to Bamatab
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How much dragon glass do they really need? Dragon glass is only needed for the White Walkers, and would probably be less effective against wights than normal weapons since you have to just totally destroy a wight to stop it.
And I wonder how many White Walkers there actually are. We've only seen a handful that have been traveling with the Night's King. But we also saw the Craster sons being turned. So I guess there could be more than the handful we've seen, but there can't be that many more can there?
If the night's king makes his way south he will be able to raise the dead so his army would grow exponentially.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 7:59 am to OMLandshark
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The only one responsible for the Aerys' madness is Aerys himself.
And the kidnapping. I'm drawing a blank, was it Duskendale?
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:00 am to OMLandshark
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This needs to die. The only one responsible for the Aerys' madness is Aerys himself. He did so much crap that led to him being a paranoid maniac. Plus you would think if Bran actually penetrated his mind and showed him visions of the future, he would have invested much more in the Wall.
A thousand times, yes. Both the show and books have established the mental illness in the Targaryen lineage, likely due to inbreeding, and it would really really cheapen that part of the story if it was Bran warging back into the past to cause that.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:02 am to wildtigercat93
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They told Stannis, and he just kind of shrugged his shoulders
Not exactly. He also had a scene with Sam on the show where he talks to him about killing a WW with dragonglass, Stannis mentions how much of it is at Dragonstone, and then tells Samwell to keep researching it.
I think there was interest in amassing a cache of dragonglass but more pressing matters like Ramsey Bolton popped up.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:04 am to BluegrassBelle
Also,time traveling is gonna frick this show up.
How important can a guy be that wasn't even in a whole season? Now all of a sudden he can control everything?
I don't like where this is headed.
How important can a guy be that wasn't even in a whole season? Now all of a sudden he can control everything?
I don't like where this is headed.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:07 am to boogiewoogie1978
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How important can a guy be that wasn't even in a whole season? Now all of a sudden he can control everything?
Now, all of a sudden, he's running for his life. He will have to figure out how to re-establish contact with the network. There is no indication he will have such power away from the cave. Hell, he's got to get to another place of safety before he can do anything.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:07 am to BluegrassBelle
There is no more Jojen Paste so Bran can't do this again
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:15 am to boogiewoogie1978
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How important can a guy be that wasn't even in a whole season?
I would say fairly important given he can gain insight to past events that shaped Westeros as we know it today. Just because he wasn't in a whole season doesn't mean he's any less important to the overall story. It was D&D's way to getting everything to catch up to each other with the way the books are written (especially the last two that are essentially concurrent in chronology).
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Also,time traveling is gonna frick this show up.
Meh. I think people are freaking way too far out over this and assuming that it's something that won't happen in the books to some degree. If anything it made the Night's King even more dangerous which needs to be established compared to the mortal standards of guys like Ramsey Bolton.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:15 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Also,time traveling is gonna frick this show up. How important can a guy be that wasn't even in a whole season? Now all of a sudden he can control everything?
No. Where have they shown us that he can control anything? All he has done is given someone a seizure. If anything he has learned not to dick around in the past. He is there to observe and gather info.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:16 am to wildtigercat93
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They told Stannis, and he just kind of shrugged his shoulders
Well Davos is clearly not the Mannis and he believes.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:18 am to LucasP
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And the kidnapping. I'm drawing a blank, was it Duskendale?
Yep, but I think that simply accelerated it. I think had Aerys lived another 20 years, he would have still reached that point. Barristan has said that Aerys was always somewhat off his rocker regardless of the Duskendale incident, so I think there's something more in addition to the genetics.
The more I think about it, the more Aerys being responsible for the Tragedy at Summerhall makes sense. Granted I think Tywin was the one who came up with the idea, but it fricked up Aerys hardcore when he and maybe Pycelle carried it out. I doubt this will be revealed in the story proper and will serve as the finale for "Dunk and Egg".
This post was edited on 5/27/16 at 8:23 am
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