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re: Game of Thrones S6:E6 "Blood of My Blood" (reader thread) (NO LEAKS!)
Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:37 pm to iluvdatiger
Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:37 pm to iluvdatiger
quote:They hate the Boltons now for stealing Sansa away from them.
I think the Kings Landing ppl care less about the Bolton's and the north. No?
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:40 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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I think she is pregnant and the child will be the undisputed new heir of Winterfell.
Watch talkin bout, Wyllis?
Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:51 pm to Putty
Ok, my crackpot. What if Bran goes into the way back time machine and sets this scenario up? There have been many Brans over time. What if Bran is the one who went back and set it up so that over time there would be "Brans" who were born and it was the job of the current 3 Eyed Raven at the time, or whatever name you want to assign him, to draw that Bran, that chosen one, to get him up to Weirwood.net so that the collective memory of the Weirwood.net could be downloaded to him. Think of the Weirwood.net as a hard drive that stored all the collective memories of Westeros and the Brans needed to get the info downloaded to them. Maybe current Bran is the one who set it all up.
It would jive when the 3 Eyed Raven said he had been there for a thousand years. Maybe it's not him who has been there for a thousand years but his position, or the collective memory of the tree network that is a thousand years old and all that info needed to be passed on.
It would jive when the 3 Eyed Raven said he had been there for a thousand years. Maybe it's not him who has been there for a thousand years but his position, or the collective memory of the tree network that is a thousand years old and all that info needed to be passed on.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:03 pm to LucasP
Whoa dude.
Holly allowed her to have some Champagne because the kid was on deck, i.e. Ready to tend bar
Don't cite Die Hard as some pro-gestational drinking gospel
Holly allowed her to have some Champagne because the kid was on deck, i.e. Ready to tend bar
Don't cite Die Hard as some pro-gestational drinking gospel
Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:04 pm to Putty
Alright, so not undisputed heir. But the baby would be the legal heir (Bolton) and be an option for historical heir (Stark).
I'm also assuming Rickon is dead and Bran will not return to be lord.
I'm also assuming Rickon is dead and Bran will not return to be lord.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:13 pm to SoDakHawk
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There have been many Brans over time
Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:56 pm to Ham Solo
I've been rewatching each episode each week, and I finally gathered the courage to rewatch E5...and I teared up a lot 
. The ending hit me a lot harder compared to the first viewing.
Really looking forward to the last 5 episodes of S6. Hopefully Blood of my Blood delivers.
. The ending hit me a lot harder compared to the first viewing. Really looking forward to the last 5 episodes of S6. Hopefully Blood of my Blood delivers.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:12 am to ladytiger118
Yeah, I've watched the last sequence like 5 times.
Poor Hodor...
Poor Hodor...
Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:38 am to ladytiger118
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I've been rewatching each episode each week, and I finally gathered the courage to rewatch E5...and I teared up a lot . The ending hit me a lot harder compared to the first viewing.
It was sad no doubt but the entire Bran and Hodor/Wylis sequence in that episode was a weird future altering of a past event phenomenon and seems to open the door for all kinds of altered future possibilities. Bran being able to see past events and warg into current/living animals and people is one thing but being able to warg into people in the past is quite another. It was definitely an innovative and interesting convention but I wonder if it will be considered a jump the shark issue within the series akin to Lord of the Rings and why didn't the eagles simply carry Frodo to Mt. Doom.
For example, what's to prevent Bran from warging into the Ned's executioner and killing Joffrey instead of Ned? I guess the obvious explanation is the warging into Wylis was a uncontrolled accident and Bran really doesn't have the capability to control his warging at that level. 
LINKPosted on 5/26/16 at 8:49 am to OMLandshark
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The Brotherhood hasn't been heard from since Season 3. LF has the means, motive, and opportunity to kill them. Plus he'll justify it to himself being vengeance for Cat, despite the fact that he himself is the main cause of her death.
Also there was this quote from LF earlier this season: "It's time for us to join.... the Frey."
That upsets me too. I wanted the LS story arc for sure. This show seems to like bringing people from three seasons ago back, so it wouldn't shock me to see the Brotherhood just show back up. Next episode would just start "Previously on ..... --Bands of thieves in the riverlands attacking Lannister men"
I am interested to see what happens with the Twins.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:52 am to blueboy
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They hate the Boltons now for stealing Sansa away from them.
But wouldn't Dorne be the target? Or is it because it's historically so hard to conquer that the King's army would rather worry about the North.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:53 am to SoDakHawk
What if the 3ER IS Bran. and Bran is him?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:57 am to MardiGrasRazorback
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That might be the only way she can really, really get back at Ramsay on any deep level. Tell him she's pregnant and then drink that shite right in front of him. Watching his "legacy" eliminated right in front of him would really piss him off, not because of any emotional attachment, but his pride would be wounded.
Ramsey could give two shits about having a son.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:59 am to Napoleon
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What if the 3ER IS Bran. and Bran is him?
Yup, this is starting to gain ground.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:34 am to CBandits82
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What if the 3ER IS Bran. and Bran is him?
Physically, no. I don't think they are the same person. I do think that is some reincarnation stuff going on there and that 3ER needed to download, pass on, his knowledge to Bran before he was gone.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:36 am to Napoleon
quote:You would think so, but Cersei seems more interested in getting revenge against the FM than against the people who murdered her daughter.
But wouldn't Dorne be the target?
I think Dorne is going to join Dany, since they're traditional Targ loyalists. Hopefully, we don't see much of them until then. HBO knows people hate it, so I have hope.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:43 am to GurleyGirl
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Bran being able to see past events and warg into current/living animals and people is one thing but being able to warg into people in the past is quite another.
While I think it was a powerful moment (and maybe it is exceedingly close to what will happen in the novels) - I think a number of things are going on there.
1. Bran is a powerful warg.
2. Before Bran "logged on" to the WWW (Westeros Weirwood Web), he warged into Hodor in their present lifetimes.
3. The Starks have a powerful connection with Hodor, specifically, and Bran has a powerful connection to Winterfell.
ETA
4. Bran was physically co-located with Hodor in the present when he warged into him in the past. Also, Bran has never been very far, physically, from Hodor for his entire life (cause and effect paradox notwithstanding).
SO, I think it will be tough to replicate those events for Bran to willy-nilly go around changing things in the past. Even as it is - other folks with whom he has a connection only get a faint "whisper" when he tries to communicate with them. Now, as significant as that is - THAT isn't gamechanging the way Hodor's transformation was.
But, honestly, I think it's a one off. It would be too messy, like a time travel episode of Star Trek if it were otherwise.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 10:47 am
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:52 am to Ace Midnight
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SO, I think it will be tough to replicate those events for Bran to willy-nilly go around changing things in the past. Even as it is - other folks with whom he has a connection only get a faint "whisper" when he tries to communicate with them. Now, as significant as that it - THAT isn't gamechanging the way Hodor's transformation was.
But, honestly, I think it's a one off. It would be too messy, like a time travel episode of Star Trek if it were otherwise.
I'm praying its a one off.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:24 am to Napoleon
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What if the 3ER IS Bran. and Bran is him?
Is the 3ER not Brynden Rivers? Bloodraven?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:39 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Is the 3ER not Brynden Rivers? Bloodraven?
This has been the consensus among readers, but never confirmed in the text of the novels or the show.
Comments on the show make it unlikely - as I've said in these threads, the "thousand" years or "thousands" of years - if literal and true, make it impossible to be Bloodraven, as he was just ~15 years older than Maester Aemon. Now, if becoming part of that network makes him timeless, he could have figuratively been waiting 1000 years (or more) for Bran.
Just like comments in the books about Coldhands (Leaf says they killed him a long time ago - hard to buy a CotF thinking a year or so is a "long time") make it almost impossible for it to be Benjen Stark, however much the description and circumstances fit otherwise. It would take some retconning or other explanation to make Coldhands literally Benjen Stark.
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