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re: Game of Thrones S5 OFF-SEASON THREAD, NO SPOILERS/BOOKREADERS!
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:37 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:37 am to CocomoLSU
Good episode last night but I just thought of a huge plot hole.
Mance says the Wildlings are running away from the white walkers, and they just want to use the tunnel under the Wall. So why go from village to village killing everyone? Why team up with the cannibals to pillage?
Why even attack the wall in the first place? Mance says they have people climbing over the wall 5 miles away, but he needs the tunnel. But they could just have a few people climb up, rig a pulley system, and then lift up everyone else who can't make the climb.
Either way, the Wildlings going around killing people was completely unnecessary. I guess we can just chalk it up to more bad writing by Martin.
Mance says the Wildlings are running away from the white walkers, and they just want to use the tunnel under the Wall. So why go from village to village killing everyone? Why team up with the cannibals to pillage?
Why even attack the wall in the first place? Mance says they have people climbing over the wall 5 miles away, but he needs the tunnel. But they could just have a few people climb up, rig a pulley system, and then lift up everyone else who can't make the climb.
Either way, the Wildlings going around killing people was completely unnecessary. I guess we can just chalk it up to more bad writing by Martin.
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:37 am to Croacka
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there was plenty of implication that the ship was going to Braavos.
It's fricking explicitly stated.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:38 am to Tiger at Law
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Looks like fake maester/necromancer is bumping out Pycelle. Where did that guy come from? Was he the Bolton's "maester?" If so, the guy is the GOT equivalent of a Nazi doctor who has probably done all kinds of nasty experiment on folks. With him pulling out the Mountain's blood, I wonder if he is trying to filter it or replace it with something else. Pycelle is a scumbag, so for him to be tripping so hard over that other dude's methods shows he is a bad dude and/or there are some things even he won't touch and that is surprising with how power hungry he is.
Yeah he's the one who helped heal Jamie's stump. He's been mentioned in passing by Pycelle, he has a bad reputation. He was stripped of his maester chain.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:39 am to wildtigercat93
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When I watched Episode 9 on couch tuner, the first comment on the video was "lol tywinn dies
Yeah, if I watch a GoT video, I do not even glance at the comments. YouTube is really bad about being spoiler ridden on those videos.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:40 am to Stonehog
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Good episode last night but I just thought of a huge plot hole.
Mance says the Wildlings are running away from the white walkers, and they just want to use the tunnel under the Wall. So why go from village to village killing everyone? Why team up with the cannibals to pillage?
Why even attack the wall in the first place? Mance says they have people climbing over the wall 5 miles away, but he needs the tunnel. But they could just have a few people climb up, rig a pulley system, and then lift up everyone else who can't make the climb.
Either way, the Wildlings going around killing people was completely unnecessary. I guess we can just chalk it up to more bad writing by Martin.
Or Mance was lying to Jon
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:41 am to CocomoLSU
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I thought after his marriage to Sansa, that was the plan (for them to go to CR and start pumping out some sons)
I thought the plan was for them to go back to Winterfell?
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:42 am to LNCHBOX
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Does no one remember a couple episodes ago Arya saying Hound was moving slow because of the infection?
I knew he would lose that fight the second it began because of that.
I do, but I still say he would've mopped the floor with Brienne anyway. Look at the fight they had...he didn't really move any slower than normal (he's not a really fast person anyway, just a pwoerful one). But he was blasting her in the face and she was shaking them off like it was nothing...I didn't like that. But I am admittedly biased though.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:43 am to wildtigercat93
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It kind of does. Especially when you accuse people of being book readers for using common sense
He didnt do that, and it is no big deal that is what he thought. Y'all need to give this dude a break.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:43 am to CocomoLSU
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But he was blasting her in the face and she was shaking them off like it was nothing...I didn't like that.
was it episode 9 when jon got his head smashed into an anvil and got back up to fight?
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:46 am to craigbiggio
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Or Mance was lying to Jon
So Jon would just let them through the tunnel? Then what? You have an untrained army of savages south of the wall with no endgame. The Wildlings aren't going to march all the way to KL and overtake the throne. They don't care about that, they are just running from the white walkers.
Look at how easy it was for Stannis to take that camp just because he had horses. Those 100,000 Wildlings are not an army, they are refugees.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:46 am to Stonehog
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Good episode last night but I just thought of a huge plot hole. Mance says the Wildlings are running away from the white walkers, and they just want to use the tunnel under the Wall. So why go from village to village killing everyone? Why team up with the cannibals to pillage? Why even attack the wall in the first place? Mance says they have people climbing over the wall 5 miles away, but he needs the tunnel. But they could just have a few people climb up, rig a pulley system, and then lift up everyone else who can't make the climb. Either way, the Wildlings going around killing people was completely unnecessary. I guess we can just chalk it up to more bad writing by Martin.
He could barley get his people up there, many of them die trying to get over the wall
Mance showed to be VERY concerned about saving wildlings lives. He wouldn't risk losing most of the 100,000 people for a plan like that, and it would certainly draw the nights watch attention
They pillages to draw out nights whatcha and weaken their defenses so they can attack from both sides and open the gates
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:49 am to Stonehog
well, the Thenns were one of many tribes and they are cannibals, so it kind of made sense for them. Mance doesn't have a very uniform group under his command, their strength comes from numbers and being united for the the first time ever.
By sending those guys over the wall to do village raids, he intended to draw out the Crows and pick them off more easily than having to raid them in castle black...and he would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.
Climbing the wall is very high and difficult, not many folks can do it it and there are nearly 100K of them...
By sending those guys over the wall to do village raids, he intended to draw out the Crows and pick them off more easily than having to raid them in castle black...and he would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.
Climbing the wall is very high and difficult, not many folks can do it it and there are nearly 100K of them...
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 9:51 am
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:49 am to OceanMan
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He didnt do that, and it is no big deal that is what he thought. Y'all need to give this dude a break.
I'm just in full support of a "comatose Khal Drogo thread" for those that need everything spelled out for them and can't remember major events from two episodes ago
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:50 am to Tiger at Law
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I'm happy that Tyrion got to wreck shop before splitting town. With Shae, I got the impression that she may have been in league with Tywin from the beginning...Daddy Lannister may have put her out there at that war camp like chum in the water knowing that Tyrion couldn't resist and allowing him to have an insight on his impish activities.
Otherwise, it just doesn't make sense for the whore to be so blind/stubborn when Tyrion was trying to protect her. If Bron really did secretly put her on a ship, she shouldn't have been back for the trial. Even if Tywin just paid her off for false testimony, there was never any indication that the dude was in to whoring around...let alone his imp's sloppy seconds. Just a weird situation/dynamic but happy with how it closed out.
I thought the same thing last night. Once Shae was in his bed, and then when he confronts Tywin he was all "Have you learned nothing? She was just another whore." which led me to think back to when Tywin fricked Tyrion over previously with the whore he fell in love with back in the day.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Shae was an implant by Tywin as a long con to exert some sort of control over Tyrion.
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Also, I'm surprised Hound/Arya still didn't enter the Eyrie. Arya still had family connections there and she could have been relatively safe in a land that was unfriendly to the Lannisters. I guess she had no way of knowing Sansa was there.
Good call, and I wondered why she didn't go there too. But I guess she doesn't know Sansa is there, like you said. And best we can tell,. all Arya and Hound knew was that Lysa was dead...not that Littlefinger and Sansa were ruling there as Disney villains.
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sorry bout it to those who just want a medieval drama, shits about to get weird.
I think this is the best way to describe things.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:52 am to Byron Bojangles III
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hey, if i did that i'm sorry buddy.
No problem. Not really a big deal.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:52 am to wildtigercat93
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Mance showed to be VERY concerned about saving wildlings lives. He wouldn't risk losing most of the 100,000 people for a plan like that, and it would certainly draw the nights watch attention
Then why did he attack the wall from the north? That was shooting fish in a barrel for the night's watch, and he got his giants killed.
And I said he could have a few Wildlings climb the wall and rig a pulley system to lift everyone else over. I never said 100,000 Wildlings should have made the climb.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:52 am to JimMorrison
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I thought the plan was for them to go back to Winterfell?
Maybe so, but for some reason I thought that wasn't the plan because Tywin and company knew that Winterfell was in ruin.
The bottom line was that he wanted Tyrion to impregnate Sansa and start pumping out Lannisters, meaning that Tyrion is a legit heir to the family.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:53 am to Stonehog
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This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:54 am to wildtigercat93
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wildtigercat93
you need me here so you can stroke your massive GOT ego
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:54 am to CocomoLSU
Brienne has had the superhero label since Season 2 (and she is probably the most "purely good" character in the GOT universe) - I actually expected her to win considering the show has been hinting @ The Hound's demise all season.
Great fight tho.
Great fight tho.
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 9:57 am
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