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re: First Reactions for Marvels Black Panther
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:35 pm to molsusports
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:35 pm to molsusports
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Some of this is clearly because some activists have looked for areas of entertainment in which to make statements.
This is not new. The Birth of a Nation is over 100 years old.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:36 pm to RLDSC FAN
Politics ruining everything now days
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:43 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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She'd better save a tear for when the Cajun people finally see representation in the Gambit movie.
Whats hilarious about this is i guarantee when that movie gets made all the Cajun/Creole/Louisiana folks will mainly say "Thats silly and inaccurate".
But black people know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about African culture. Seriously. They will say that a movie about techno-based space Africans is "authentically black" or some shite. They wont know if the accents are right, or the customs are accurate, or if the clothing is true to the region. They dont know the cultural difference between northern Africa to western africa to central africa. Nothing.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:57 pm to Hester Carries
A lot of them truly believe the entire continent is all black people. Some even think the ancient Egyptians and Carthaginians were black. Just the way it is.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:00 pm to saintsfan22
You are correct in arguing this is not new. But I think the tone of that argument is wrong.
There are a lot of data to show how partisanship in media and politicians have increased over the last 25 years. Moderate news sources and elected officials are vanishing breeds.
There are a lot of data to show how partisanship in media and politicians have increased over the last 25 years. Moderate news sources and elected officials are vanishing breeds.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:02 pm to bigpetedatiga
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What would it be preachy about?
Should be nothing at all. Hopefully reviews like this are merely the excited utterances of retarded racists, and don’t accurately reflect the movie:
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jen yamato ? @jenyamato BLACK PANTHER is incredible, kinetic, purposeful. A superhero movie about why representation & identity matters, and how tragic it is when those things are denied to people. The 1st MCU movie about something real; Michael B. Jordan’s Killmonger had me weeping and he’s the VILLAIN
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Peter Sciretta ? @slashfilm Black Panther looks, feels and sounds unlike any Marvel film to date. A visual feast. Wakanda is amazingly realized, the antagonist actually has an arc with emotional motivations. Marvels most political movie. So good. #BlackPanther 10:06 PM - Jan 29, 2018
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Anderson ?@TrevellAnderson #BlackPanther is a love letter about blackness, to a world that often ghettoizes it without realizing that it is on black backs that this planet revolves. This world’s livelihood is in our blood
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:03 pm to Captain Crown
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Politics ruining everything now days
Which is the result of politics being injected to every aspect of our lives.
If I want to have a political battle-royal, I'll go troll Facebook, the PoliBoard, etc.
But when I watch sports, go see a fun action movie, etc. I don't want to be lectured about what political beliefs I should hold...no matter who is pushing them.
Now don't get me wrong...BP is of course going to discuss politics. Wakandia politics and whatnot within the (fictional) Marvel Universe. That's perfectly ok.
But when movies make thinly-veiled attempts to lecture the audience on subjects currently found in our political climate, it's fricking annoying and turns me off from the movie.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:08 pm to Centinel
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But when movies make thinly-veiled attempts to lecture the audience on subjects currently found in our political climate, it's fricking annoying and turns me off from the movie.
This
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:02 pm to wildtigercat93
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What if it gets a high rating for being an enjoyable movie
The problem if that you won't be able to tell if it's good based on the reviews. Same shite as Wonder Woman and Ghostbusters
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:03 pm to asurob1
This is all people freaking out about nothing. There were a lot of similar early reviews from feminists about Wonder Woman, but in the end it was just a fun movie that really didn't have any political message. And its much easier to just enjoy the movie than to get worked up over someone else's interpretation of it.
On top of that, Marvel, if anything, plays things safe to a fault. They aren't going to risk making any type controversial political statement with this movie.
But in the end people on both sides are going to make way too big a deal out of because they are so obsessed with viewing everything through a political lens in today's world.
I really think this is going to be an awesome movie so it sucks to the way the discussion about it is trending.
On top of that, Marvel, if anything, plays things safe to a fault. They aren't going to risk making any type controversial political statement with this movie.
But in the end people on both sides are going to make way too big a deal out of because they are so obsessed with viewing everything through a political lens in today's world.
I really think this is going to be an awesome movie so it sucks to the way the discussion about it is trending.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:06 pm to LoveThatMoney
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The problem if that you won't be able to tell if it's good based on the reviews. Same shite as Wonder Woman
That is just false. Wonder Woman was almost universally liked on here. Its audience score on RT is 88% compared to 52% for Ghostbusters.
Its just like Get Out, which I mentioned earlier in the thread. Sure, it might get inflated reviews, but if its still mostly liked even without the inflated reviews, why are we bitching about it?
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:17 pm to Cap Crunch
I agree with that. I get not everyone loves it, but it was pretty universally enjoyed.
Huge difference between WW and GB.
Huge difference between WW and GB.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:18 pm to Centinel
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Which is the result of politics being injected to every aspect of our lives.
If I want to have a political battle-royal, I'll go troll Facebook, the PoliBoard, etc.
But when I watch sports, go see a fun action movie, etc. I don't want to be lectured about what political beliefs I should hold...no matter who is pushing them.
Now don't get me wrong...BP is of course going to discuss politics. Wakandia politics and whatnot within the (fictional) Marvel Universe. That's perfectly ok.
But when movies make thinly-veiled attempts to lecture the audience on subjects currently found in our political climate, it's fricking annoying and turns me off from the movie.
All of this x100
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:19 pm to Cap Crunch
I liked Ghostbusters. It was funny.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:21 pm to Cap Crunch
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On top of that, Marvel, if anything, plays things safe to a fault. They aren't going to risk making any type controversial political statement with this movie.
I'd hold on that comment. You're talking about the company that took a good portion of its main characters and recasted them as political statement characters. (I'm not saying all were, nor all were bad, but there were motivations beyond simple creative ones). And created the X-Men.
Now the comics are different than the MCU for sure, but Marvel is no stranger to creating controversy via political statements.
They also recently created the dumbest and most revulsive retcon of all time for a thinly veiled political statement.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:40 pm to RLDSC FAN
I've wanted to see Wakanda in all its glory onscreen for a while now. Will see at the Camp Casey Theater.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:41 pm to Freauxzen
quote:What was that?
They also recently created the dumbest and most revulsive retcon of all time for a thinly veiled political statement.
You talking about the Cap is a hydra member bullshite?
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:45 pm to Cap Crunch
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That is just false. Wonder Woman was almost universally liked on here.
Even if you think WW was the best movie ever made, you had to have looked at the reviews with some skepticism because so many were rife with girl power bullshite.
I thought the movie was pretty bad. Not a whole lot to hold its hat on, imo. But I am in the minority on this board. I get that. But most people on this board still couldn't take most of the reviews seriously nor should they have. The degree to which reviewers flattered the movie for its girl power was reprehensible, particularly since it wasn't about that and was only viewed through that lens by reviewers with a political agenda.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:53 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Even if you think WW was the best movie ever made, you had to have looked at the reviews with some skepticism because so many were rife with girl power bullshite.
I thought the movie was pretty bad. Not a whole lot to hold its hat on, imo. But I am in the minority on this board. I get that.
You aren't alone. I don't think it was awful but it was nowhere near as good as people make it out to be. Gadot is unbelievably gorgeous but can't act for shite and that 3rd act is almost as bad as Batman vs superman and suicide squad.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 7:04 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Even if you think WW was the best movie ever made, you had to have looked at the reviews with some skepticism because so many were rife with girl power bullshite.
I was actually just skeptical that DC made a good movie
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 7:13 pm
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