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re: Elizabeth Banks on Charlie's Angels reboot criticism: 'You've had 37 Spider-Man movies'

Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

 “You’ve had 37 Spider-Man movies and you’re not complaining!”

Lowest world-wide grossing Spiderman film: ~$708,000,000.

HIGHEST grossing Charlie's Angels film: ~$259,000,000

Gee, I wonder why they kept making Spiderman films.

Apparently, she forgot that there was a very short-lived tv reboot on ABC that was cancelled after 4 episodes (though they did show 3 of the 4 remaining episodes, so . . . they have that). Like it wasn't that long ago that it crashed and burned; why did they think NOW was the time to reboot it?

I can only assume some executive heard about the Terminator re-re-reboot and said, "Reboots are back in style! Get that Charlie's Angels film into production immediately!"

Edit: It's a Sony film; so I'm guessing that might be what actually happened.
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29277 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:57 pm to
It’s so typical of their response.

If it doesn’t do well, it’s everyone else’ fault and an ever present dominant sign of the patriarchy and blah blah blah
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36039 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Had they managed to snag Lawrence, Stone, and Robbie....I might have gone to see it.

I saw Oceans 8 because of the strong cast. Still suffered from a weak story. But at least people sampled it.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35479 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:30 pm to
The movie needed T&A, the show was based on T&A (though often implied)



- but 3 quasi chicks (who all seem to lack both T and A) just kicking guy's asses...yawn.



vs.



Yep, this is the day and age we're living in.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28050 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

“You’ve had 37 Spider-Man movies and you’re not complaining!” Banks says.


lol

typical hollywerdo idiot
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

She’s not wrong


She's extremely wrong. It has nothing to do with "well it's been 17 years, time for another female action movie", it has everything to do with it sucking really really bad. Why not come out with a new movie idea involving females and action? There's nothing stopping that from happening tomorrow. The problem is that Hollywood has run out of ideas so all they have left is reboots and sequels and rehashes of old ideas with females and minorities. Just come up with new ideas FFS and cast who you want. Nobody is avoiding this movie simply because it's a female action movie.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:46 pm to
People still want Spider-Man movies because there are still stories to tell, even if the studio keeps telling the same damn one.

How many stories are in Charlie’s Angels considering it is a goddamn 70s jiggle show at heart?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63486 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

I like EB, but I just don't think she was set up to win with this one.



She can act, can look fairly hot and has done some solid independent film work. Charlie's Angels wouldn't much interest me, regardless of the cast.

Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
6663 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

"You’ve had 37 Spider-Man movies and you’re not complaining!” Banks says.



Because people actually want to see Spiderman movies you idiot. Spiderman movies are like pizza...even when it's bad it's still pretty good.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
9966 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:52 pm to
So banks made her movie with the intention to fail?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

You’ve had 37 Spider-Man movies and you’re not complaining!


Dumbass
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14895 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:27 pm to
I couldn’t careless if there were 50 major female led action blockbusters a year, as long as they’re good movies.

When they start producing quality female led movies (and this extends past action movies) there will be less criticism.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:46 pm to
It has to be a very hard excuse to avoid using when things don't work out.

Option 1: is assume responsibility and admit the movie could have been better, or was poorly marketed, or was poorly cast.

Option 2: blame the audience for their lack of sophistication or being sexist, or racist, or xenophobic.

For a person not in her position it seems hateful. But really she's just using a "dog ate my homework" level of excuse for the outcome.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
1725 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:23 am to
quote:

made it about SJW preaching then maybe people would go see it


I don't plan on seeing it but even if it didn't have a bunch of SJW preaching in it I think it would've flopped. This is a movie that no one asked for
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:46 am to
They need to blame women for not supporting their own. A movie like Girls Roadtrip or Crazy Rich Asians drew tons of money from groups of "ladies night" women.
Women didn't make parties out of Ghostbusters or Charlie's angels.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4840 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Option 1: is assume responsibility and admit the movie could have been better, or was poorly marketed, or was poorly cast.

Option 2: blame the audience for their lack of sophistication or being sexist, or racist, or xenophobic


The Banks WSJ magazine profile quoted in OP was published on 11/14, before the film flopped as it was before the film was released.

Banks was responding to repeated criticisms she received for rebooting Charlie's Angels. Has nothing to do with blaming audiences for not going to the movie.

Good job reading, guys!
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
9764 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:12 am to
People see Charlies Angels to see hot chicks. This movies didn't have hot chicks. Simple really.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19513 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:22 am to

"Like what I want you to like! Spend your money where I want you to spend it!"
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22729 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:40 am to
quote:

They need to blame women for not supporting their own.


If they are expecting women to drive sales for a movie like Charlie's Angels, they have completely misinterpreted the audience for this kind of movie.

Women only watch action flicks, and what used to be a tongue in cheek T&A franchise, when their boyfriends make them.

quote:

Crazy Rich Asians


This was a movie with a built in audience. It was a serviceable movie that I even sat down and watched with my wife. I haven't seen the new Angels movie, but I doubt it would hold my interest.

Posted by stateofplay
Member since Sep 2018
1504 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:41 am to
And thats a damn shame considering how many Green Lantern type trash movies have been made.
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