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ClientNumber9
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Do you think actors know when they're in a terrible film?

I suppose this question could be for singers and other entertainers too, but do you think actors can objectively say, "yeah, wow- this movie/my performance is a dumpster fire"? Or do you think they're too close to their work and think they've put out a good product?

I realize that mostv Hollywood actors aren't "A list" and pretty much everyone but the elites will accept almost any role but my question is do they realize it's trash during production?

I pondered this as I watched Cop Out during my treadmill run today. I'll pretty much watch any mindless silliness to keep my eyes occupied while on the treadmill but Cop Out was especially bad. Here you have someone who's very close to A list (Bruce Willis) and certainly isn't hurting for money. I wonder if, when reading the script, thought, "This is going to be a smash hit. It's wonderful!" And then later, when watching the full movie on the screen for the first time, thought,"I did a great job in this."

It's an interesting thought and makes me wonder how entertainers look at their finished products.


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Absolutely. They can tell when they are going for the paycheck. Some of them are in such financial bad shape they have take as much work as they can....see Nicholas Cage



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You can't think John Wayne was very happy when he played Genghis Khan in the film "The Conqueror"

Horrible typecasting putting Wayne playing the Mongol leader. Then, so many of the cast and crew later developed various forms of cancer due to the location of the shoot being so close to a nuclear testing range.


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Seeing pictures from the set of Barbie makes me wonder if Gosling just needed the cash


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Ian McDiarmid in the prequels and ROS. I think you can tell he knew the movies weren’t great and just decided to have an absolute blast playing Sidious. Which I appreciate because it makes the moves more fun


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Seeing pictures from the set of Barbie makes me wonder if Gosling just needed the cash

These types of movies are very hard to gauge correctly from a script or even while shooting. The over the top silly/referential movies can be made good or bad in post-production.


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Seeing pictures from the set of Barbie makes me wonder if Gosling just needed the cash


If I had the chance to star alongside Margot Robbie I'd pay the studio to let me do it


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I think most actors realize it.

However I remember Lindsay Lohan saying that she thought “I Know Who Killed Me” could be an Oscar winner.

It is considered one of the worst movies made this century.


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Of course they do. They're just collecting a paycheck


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Cage should be worth like $100 mil??? However I have always wondered if actors have a choice of how they get paid by gross sales or just afterwards.


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More often than not, actors don't know what's good and what's terrible.

There's a scene in Hoosiers where Gene Hackman and Dennis Hopper are sitting on the bench and Hackman leans into Hopper's ear and says something...and Hopper busts out laughing. The scene is in the movie.

Supposedly Hackman said to Hopper (while filming) "well our careers are over."

He thought the movie was going to be terrible.


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Michael Caine on why he took a role in
Jaws 4:

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"I have never seen the film, but by all accounts it was terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific." 


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According to The Rewatchables, Gene Hackman thought Hossiers would be a steaming pile that no one would remember.


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According to The Rewatchables, Gene Hackman thought Hossiers would be a steaming pile that no one would remember.


Sir Alec Guinness felt the same about Star Wars...LOL


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The Pirate King
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Editing and post-production can take a good movie and make it bad or vice versa. I’m sure an actor knows when they give a good performance, but what comes out on the other side may not be good.


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Red12_Black4
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Cruise and Hoffman had a similar interaction on Rain Man. In between takes they’d joke about how bad the film would be.


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skrayper
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To an extent, sure.
Sometimes movies become terrible due to reshoots or editing, so those are harder for the actors to be aware of.

I imagine the original Suicide Squad, with the darker tone, was probably a lot better before they started doing rewrites.

And how many great scenes did an actor think was amazing that either got cut completely, or at least cut down to lose some of its gravitas?


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Honest Tune
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Michael Caine on why he took a role in Jaws 4:


Glad you quoted him, that’s the one I was thinking. I remember thinking that movie was awesome as a kid.


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Scoob
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It's really kind of hard to say, and some of it depends on your definition of "terrible".

For example, John Carter. I happen to like that movie very much, and a lot of other people do too, once they see it.
It happens to be considered the biggest box office bomb in history.

I thought Taylor Kitsch, Mark Strong, and the rest of the cast did a good job, I thought Lynn Collins in particular did well. Kitsch and Collins probably thought their careers would take off, due to being the leads in that movie.


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Chris Evans thought Lightyear was going to be a success


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