re: Critics seem to be baffled by "Emilia Perez" getting 13 nominations

I watched about 20 minutes with my wife and found it offensively bad. Like, I would expect more Razzie nominations than Academy Award nominations.

Content aside, that song is just plain... BAD.

I can't tell if it's supposed to be in the "so bad it's funny" category or just the "bad" category, but I stopped it after two verses it was so painful.

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A feared cartel leader Juan “Little Hands” wants to fake his death to live her true authentic life.

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I saw a clip on TikTok a while back and it made it seem that this big time drug lord started dressing as a woman to evade authorities, and it got me interested, then I saw it was a musical and said nah I'm good.

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As one of these “woke morons” per another poster

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JW, I've seen your posts for a while. I genuinely have never once thought "JW is woke." You might have different political views than the forum or board as a whole, I have never seen anything that makes me think you're "woke."

Nominating an objectively bad movie because it has "minorities" and a trans person for the cause is woke. i'm pretty anti-woke, and i saw the talent behind Dutch Girl and Moonlight.

While it's a huge fight amongst what "woke" means, my interpretation is "Cultlike adherence to leftist social orthodoxy enforced by social and mainstream media in response to backlash against western culture."

You can be pro BLM, trans, gay, and a socialist and not be anything resembling the above.


ETA: I just reviewed your IMDB and realized you were on the Holdovers. nothing but high praise for that one.

ironically, my wife and son thinks it looks awful and won't watch it because of the art direction and i've watched it 3 times in the last year or so and it's the most beautiful cinematographically and artistically filmed movie i remember in a long time.

I can't keep from watching that clip every time I click the link to this board.

What the frick is that?

lol. They don't need member wide instructions. They are all indoctrinated. No need for silly instructions. 13 nominations makes it pretty clear.

Thanks for the Holdovers love! That was a special project.

The "woke morons" was just a direct response to the poster talking about the Academy members (I am one of them). More in jest really. I would hope a film gets nominations on merit and quality, so if this movie is as terrible as some claim then that's unfortunate (i still need to see it).

I totally get the criticism and understand the sentiments about certain agendas, which certainly exists. But for the most part, the only persuasion Most of us get is getting invited to high end screenings and receptions that often involve the stars and free booze.

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The trans element is exploitative, at best. Similar to that forced conversion hit man movie Walter Hill made with Michelle Rodriguez. I doubt anyone would consider that woke

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Hoffman won a GG and an Oscar nom for cross dressing and (even though it wasn’t in the vernacular at the time) nobody called it “woke.”

I think the difference now is what we know of Hollywood and Foreign Press’ mainstream thinking (trying not to accuse them of being a monolith,) is that this would be a shoe in for awards regardless of its’ actual merits. When I read the plot 2 months ago I called that the dude would be nominated for best actress regardless of the performance.

And let’s be honest, the last 3 major films dealing with transition/non-binary have all been lauded by critics (Danish Girl, Conclave, EP.)

Ask yourself, would the critics have liked Conclave without the twist?

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And let’s be honest, the last 3 major films dealing with transition/non-binary have all been lauded by critics (Danish Girl, Conclave, EP.)

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1. Both The Danish Girl and Emilia Perez were not lauded by critics. That's what a few of us have been saying in this thread about EP. The Danish Girl being nominated for multiple oscars and even winning one was a joke in 2016, as it was another movie that no one really liked (and another movie that was considered offensive by trans/non-binary people)

2. Lumping Conclave with those is weird, and you know it.

3. The general critical consensus is that the twist is the weakest part of Conclave. Critics liked it because it was a fast-paced, classically entertaining chamber drama with great performances, until a final-5-minute twist. I think they would have liked it much more without the twist, given that's what so many have already written.