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Christopher Nolan Says Fellow Directors Have Called to Complain About His Inaudible Sound
Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:00 pm
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The sound design in Christopher Nolan’s movies is known to generate frustration among moviegoers, but it turns out Nolan’s fellow filmmakers have also expressed annoyance with being unable to hear the director’s dialogue. Most Nolan releases, from “Interstellar” to “The Dark Knight Rises” to this year’s “Tenet,” spark the question: are Nolan movies too loud? The director has defended his sound design in the past, and he says in Tom Shone’s new book “The Nolan Variations” that he’s surprised how “conservative” moviegoers are about cinematic sound.
“We got a lot of complaints,” Nolan said about the “Interstellar” sound design. “I actually got calls from other filmmakers who would say, ‘I just saw your film, and the dialogue is inaudible.’ Some people thought maybe the music’s too loud, but the truth was it was kind of the whole enchilada of how we had chosen to mix it.”
“It was a very, very radical mix,” the director continued. “I was a little shocked to realize how conservative people are when it comes to sound. Because you can make a film that looks like anything, you can shoot on your iPhone, no one’s going to complain. But if you mix the sound a certain way, or if you use certain sub-frequencies, people get up in arms.”
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Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:05 pm to Bench McElroy
I don’t get why he finds it shocking that people don’t like not being able to hear dialogue in a movie...
Creative sound design is one thing - inaudible dialogue is another.
Creative sound design is one thing - inaudible dialogue is another.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:09 pm to Bench McElroy
Is Nolan having a fall from grace? Insisting that a mediocre movie like TENET be released in the middle of a pandemic when theaters are at quarter capacity (at best) resulting in a box office bomb for Warner Bros. Now, he’s drawing the ire of fellow directors for incompetent sound design.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:14 pm to LSUDropout
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I don’t get why he finds it shocking that people don’t like not being able to hear dialogue in a movie...
Creative sound design is one thing - inaudible dialogue is another.
Something has been seriously wrong with this aspect of his craft since at least THE DARK KNIGHT RISES with that horrible mix for Bane's voice.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:17 pm to Bench McElroy
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But if you mix the sound a certain way, or if you use certain sub-frequencies, people get up in arms.”
Sound is a completely different sense moron. You can escape annoying visuals. In the audio/video world..audio lays the foundation so you can enjoy what you're seeing. Thats why annoying sounds are worse than an eyesore.
For example..I think everyone can agree that Porn is better with quality sound.
This post was edited on 11/15/20 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:22 pm to Bench McElroy
One might say he's tone deaf
Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:53 pm to Bench McElroy
Nolan is the most copied director in Hollywood. They're just being bitches because they know he's their daddy.
This post was edited on 11/15/20 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:57 pm to Bench McElroy
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“It was a very, very radical mix,” the director continued. “I was a little shocked to realize how conservative people are when it comes to sound. Because you can make a film that looks like anything, you can shoot on your iPhone, no one’s going to complain. But if you mix the sound a certain way, or if you use certain sub-frequencies, people get up in arms.”
"It's not my sound mixing that sucks. The people are just too uncultured to understand it."
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:03 pm to Bench McElroy
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But if you mix the sound a certain way, or if you use certain sub-frequencies, people get up in arms.”
Yeah, crazy that people want to know what's going on.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:06 pm to hawgfaninc
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One might say he's tone deaf
I see what you did there.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:06 pm to Bench McElroy
You know people are too successful when they start just trying stupid shite to be cutting edge then act like everybody else doesn't understand their genius
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:07 pm to Bench McElroy
I’ve seen a number of these threads. My sense of audio has always been off. That said, it’s weird because except for the rapid-fire dialogue editing, which isn”t really a sound mixing issue, in the restaurant scene in Tenet, I’ve never noticed anything amiss with Nolan’s sound design.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:09 pm to Bench McElroy
I’ve noticed these issues with sound in his movies too.
It’s fine if he wants to use sound as a dynamic influence but it would also be nice if I could hear the people talking.
It’s fine if he wants to use sound as a dynamic influence but it would also be nice if I could hear the people talking.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:12 pm to Corso
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You know people are too successful when they start just trying stupid shite to be cutting edge then act like everybody else doesn't understand their genius
That’s pretty spot on lol.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:27 pm to shutterspeed
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I’ve never noticed anything amiss with Nolan’s sound design.
the only time it really affected me was in interstellar
i appreciated it a lot more (the movie and sound mxiing) the 2nd time i saw it
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:48 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Yeah, crazy that people want to know what's going on.
Nolan's scripts just blaze through exposition with stunning incompetence, he doesn't want you to think about what anyone is saying. that's why they mix it poorly
didnt a dude on reddit that worked on Nolan's set say that the directive was "they dont need to get every word of dialogue, they just need to get the gist of the conversation." lmao
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:51 pm to Carson123987
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Nolan's scripts just blaze through exposition with stunning incompetence, he doesn't want you to think about what anyone is saying. that's why they mix it poorly
This is my problem with Nolan's style. Everything is spelled out in exposition. One reason why DUNKIRK is my favorite Nolan film of the last 10 years. It was at least an attempt to tell the story visually rather than verbally.
(Edit: Although, I wouldn't go so far as to say Nolan is muffling the dialogue intentionally. I honestly think this is the movie version of the "Loudness Wars" in music. Nolan wants the audience to feel the sound in their chairs. Hence, the bass is high in the mix and the volume is jacked way the hell up.)
This post was edited on 11/15/20 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 11/15/20 at 5:02 pm to Bench McElroy
Nolan’s ego is blinding him.
His audio mixing has almost always been shite. Dialogue is important. You miss so much of it because of his stupid choices.
His audio mixing has almost always been shite. Dialogue is important. You miss so much of it because of his stupid choices.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 5:22 pm to Athos
But, but, he tells stories in a non-linear, non-chronological way! He can't be bound by such pedestrian concerns as audible dialogue.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 5:26 pm to Bench McElroy
So almost everyone universally complains about the sound, and they are all wrong.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
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