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re: Casting a black actor as Snape in upcoming Potter series is just awful
Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:45 pm to cbtullis
Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:45 pm to cbtullis
When you change a thing it’s no longer the thing it once was. This will not be a Harry Potter story or show, it’s a woke show wearing a Harry Potter skin suit.
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:46 pm to Corinthians420
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Not really. Fun Bunch will swear up and down that this scene couldnt be portrayed in any way that James doesnt look like a racist if Snape is black.
"Well its more the fact that he exists, if you know what I mean"
- James Potter on Severus Snape
That will go well
Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:47 pm to lsupride87
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Race was completely inconsequential in the harry potter universe
i guess you missed the entire mudblood thing
Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:48 pm to cbtullis
Not just a black guy but a former male model. And James Potter will be a racist. Because of course he will. He's white. 
People don't understand. Things like this don't absolutely mean that the show will suck, but when those are the priorities, there's not a good chance that the rest of it will be good.
People don't understand. Things like this don't absolutely mean that the show will suck, but when those are the priorities, there's not a good chance that the rest of it will be good.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:48 pm to Fun Bunch
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"Well its more the fact that he exists, if you know what I mean"
- James Potter on Severus Snape
That will go well
What adaptation has ever gone with line by line quotes from the source material for its entirety?
And there is nothing racist about what you just posted anyway. It just means he straight up doesnt like him. There's no racial connotation unless YOU make it
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:49 pm to cbtullis
It won't be a big deal only if they don't use it as a way to invoke some sort of a racial narrative, and unfortunately, I don't think they can help themselves.
Even though the character is an outcast and someone who was bullied partly because of their looks.
I can already see the think pieces from The Atlantic, NYT, Vox, etc.
"Is Snape's treatment in the new Harry Potter series an indictment on race in America?"
Even though the character is an outcast and someone who was bullied partly because of their looks.
I can already see the think pieces from The Atlantic, NYT, Vox, etc.
"Is Snape's treatment in the new Harry Potter series an indictment on race in America?"
Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:51 pm to lsupride87
While I generally see your argument, I think the average Harry Potter reader who watches this will take some time to get used to someone looking so different from what is described and imagined. And that’s a pretty normal response. Fans of comic books get worked up over a character’s suit if it’s not exactly like how it was drawn. If this is good and he does a good job, his race will eventually stop being a talking point. Unfortunately, recent history isn’t on his side.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:53 pm to TigerV
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i guess you missed the entire mudblood thing
Wizards arent a race. There are wizards from all over the world of different races. Both of Hermione's parents are muggles and she is a wizard.
Thats sorta the whole point.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:08 pm to Madking
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When you change a thing it’s no longer the thing it once was.
You're repeating this as though it is smart. Are you so completely unfamiliar with the idea of adaptation? Your statement is true of every single work that has ever been adapted, no matter what medium it was adapted into, and no matter how many superficial "changes" were made.
Regardless of the issue at hand in this specific thread, you are fetishizing a purity that is impossible in adaptation, and you wouldnt want it anyway. Novels and TV are different, they have their own specific sets of conventions and "rules" and associated audience interactions. Adaptations of novels should make changes. You don't like change, and that's okay. You don't like this specific change; that seems reasonable. Your broad statements about change are dumb.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:10 pm to TigerV
quote:What “race” was mudbloods? They could be white, black, oriental etc
i guess you missed the entire mudblood thing
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:11 pm to Jay Are
A lot of panic and buzz words in your post which is what happens when someone like you is faced with an irrefutable truth.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:12 pm to cbtullis
They knew what they were doing. This was an intentional finger in the eye of OG Potter fans.
* 100% of the DVs never read any of the Potter books.
* 100% of the DVs never read any of the Potter books.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:15 pm to lsupride87
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What “race” was mudbloods? They could be white, black, oriental etc
All this shite doesn't exist in a vacuum. Mudblood was a stand in for race relations. Race relations will still have existed in this world and they certainly exist in the reader's world. It will be viewed negatively.
This is like pretending the goblins don't have some Jewish aspect behind them.
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What adaptation has ever gone with line by line quotes from the source material for its entirety?
Actual fans want as close to the source as possible. We want that. This change will affect us getting a faithful adaptation and it indicative more changes are going to be made to fit with a new vision for the story.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:17 pm to Dam Guide
They know this, they’re being intentionally dishonest which is what they do. Just like pretending that adaptation means fundamentally altering everything in the story when it really just means there could be small changes because of a medium change. These people are not only liars, they’re actively at war with the truth.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:21 pm to cbtullis
gotta check off the ethnicity boxes
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:22 pm to lsupride87
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Race is really non existent in age created wizard world. They don’t care about it at all and not once does a character ever mention or acknowledge race. It’s of complete non importance
Except now they are 100% going to care about race. Plus add the sympathetic villain aspect to it now He doesn't need to be a sympathetic villain, sometimes it's ok to make the bad guy just the bad guy. Just like we didn't need a show trying to make us feel bad for Orcs and their family life, we don't need a sympathetic Snape. But that's what we're about to get.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:25 pm to cbtullis
It's a harbinger of the numerous other woke changes coming for this project.
Don't let Rowling's stance on trannies fool you, she's always been a zealous wokey outside of that and performative virtue signalling is very much her jam.
Hermione is gonna be black.
Many other various minor characters are gonna get race swaps too.
There will be casual homosexuality throughout Hogwarts too this time around.
This shite is a religion to these people, they don't care if audiences will like it or not.
Don't let Rowling's stance on trannies fool you, she's always been a zealous wokey outside of that and performative virtue signalling is very much her jam.
Hermione is gonna be black.
Many other various minor characters are gonna get race swaps too.
There will be casual homosexuality throughout Hogwarts too this time around.
This shite is a religion to these people, they don't care if audiences will like it or not.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:27 pm to RollTide1987
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The original Dumbledore, Richard Harris, was I think 69 when he was cast and he died at the age of 72.
Yes, of course, but Richard Harris lived about 120 years worth of life, so there's that.
I think the bigger problem is that Rowling saw this as a distinctly British property (which does not necessarily exclude black folks from Britain), which is why, with few exceptions, they passed on casting Americans, however well-regarded (notably Robin Williams). Maybe they're trying to make up for that with the beloved John Lithgow.
ETA: The smarter Dumbledore casting would have been Jared Harris who is in his mid-60s now and who could replace his father better than him?
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:28 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:Wait, Snape absolutely is the quintessential “sympathetic villain”
Except now they are 100% going to care about race. Plus add the sympathetic villain aspect to it now He doesn't need to be a sympathetic villain, sometimes it's ok to make the bad guy just the bad guy. Just like we didn't need a show trying to make us feel bad for Orcs and their family life, we don't need a sympathetic Snape. But that's what we're about to get.
He is such a sympathetic villain that he is actually one of the biggest heroes
If they make his character about race they will have fricked up as it isn’t a part of his character. So far the only people doing so are people here
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 4:29 pm to Dam Guide
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All this shite doesn't exist in a vacuum. Mudblood was a stand in for race relations. Race relations will still have existed in this world and they certainly exist in the reader's world. It will be viewed negatively.
This is like pretending the goblins don't have some Jewish aspect behind them.
I saw it more as class relations, because we didnt see any real differences, only perceived. Hermione was a stronger wizard than Draco, but due to his parents being of Wizarding (noble) blood, he perceived himself as superior. Same with James towards snape. It is more similar to a class divide than a racial divide.
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