re: 'Birds of Prey' bombs at the box office — and feminists are blaming sexism

How about the fact that you pretty much strayed from the source material and tried to reinvent the wheel with a SJW agenda.

IMO when it comes to adaptions of Comic's or SiFi you have to do fan service to the people who made the material popular enough for it to made in a live action movie.

When you drastically change the characters trying to please the masses you will bomb every time. Please the core and they will drive the masses to the theater.

right her breaking away from the Joker had 0 impact because they were together all of 5 minutes in screen time to the audience

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Get woke, go broke.

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Hollywood just doesn't get it. Every story worth telling, has already been told. Multiple times. Throwing some garbage out there because, muh wimmenz, muh gay, muh tranny, muh minority, doesn't change the fact that people know that story has already been made. But if you liked the original better, then youre some kind of ' ist

The proof is seen in all the reboots/sequels that Hollywood keeps doing in order to sell tickets. There are simply no new stories that people are willing to spend crazy money, on just because you take out the white men from the original.

The Top 20 all-time box office movies are from when Hollywood first starting putting stories on film

Gone with the Wind
Start Wars
ET
Sound of Music
Snow White
10 Commandments
Jaws
Ben Hur
Dr Zhivago

Having an all woman Magnificent 7, or an all Hispanic Titanic, or an all gay Mary Poppins just isn't going to sell tickets. Sorry

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And in regards to the significance of her leaving The Joker, it had a bigger impact within the comic book universe because of the history they shared.

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This is part of the issue with how bad Suicide Squad was. It didn't just fail to hype up this movie, Leto's take on the Joker also kept the Joker/Harley relationship from building.

I haven't seen this new one, but it's hard to see why I should care about the end of a Joker/Harley relationship that never got going in the first place.

Names and good repertoire of films from both.

They aren't blockbuster actors by themselves but they are usually a great or good thing in the movies they are in.

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'Birds of Prey' bombs at the box office — and feminists are blaming sexism

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No... It bombed because it was poorly marketed. I'd love to know how much they spent on marketing this movie. I saw one trailer for it, and that was because it was posted on here and shared on Twitter. I had no idea it came out last week until I randomly looked on Fandango and saw movie times listed. I'll go check it out, but it didn't bomb because of why they think it did.

yeah, i'd be afraid of them in a fight.


fricking Hollywood is such garbage

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Also Harley Quinn without The Joker is not very interesting.

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Not true - in the comics, she's been plenty successful without him.

THAT SAID - she is usually WAY better playing off of another protagonist who is generally the calm half of the duo. Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn is a really damned good duo, and the animated show is 1000x better than the movie because Harley's frantic nature is played off of Ivy's no nonsense personality.

What they should have done is had Harley and Joker to start (A NEW JOKER - Leto sucks balls), then branch off as she realizes she doesn't need him. Befriending Ivy along the way. Third act is either them pulling a heist together (make it a super-powered heist movie) or becoming anti-heroes, like Punisher.

The movie was never marketed as some feminist epic. Other than the word "emancipation", the trailers and commercials were about Harley leaving Joker and joining women who had a common threat.

Everyone lost their shite because McGregor (who only did the movie to be near his young girlfriend) decided to show off in an interview by making the movie seem more important than it is. The writer didn't write it that way. The director didn't direct it that way. The movie didn't end up that way. But McGregor had a grander SJW vision than the film's creators.

Was the movie marketed badly, named badly, and created for the wrong rating? Yes.

Is it an anti-male feminist manifesto worthy of either side getting upset over? No.

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How are the female characters mistreated by men?

-Harley breaks up with Joker. Once people find out she's no longer under Joker's protection, she's open game for everyone she's mistreated in the past.

-Montoya is shite on by all of the cops in her precinct. They laugh at her for being a professional cop. Her sex isn't mentioned, but it's obvious that it's part of it.

-Black Canary gets a promotion based on her talents. No mistreatment.

-Huntress is orphaned by bad men, saved by a good man, and raised by good men.

-Cassandra is a pickpocket who picks the wrong pocket. No mistreatment.

ETA: There's also a scene where a guy tries to take advantage of a drunk Harley and Canary kicks his arse. That's about the only "sex" in the entire thing.


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Is every man in this film bad? No. But the entire film is about villains VS villains. Like 90% of movies, the villains are male bad guys.

I can understand not wanting to see it based on the marketing, but avoiding it because of one interview out of a hundred or because it has women battling male bad guys is lame.

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and feminists are blaming sexism

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The evidence of which was one tweet and the words of one comic book nerd.

God damn people lap this shite up on here.