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Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:02 am to abellsujr
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All of this makes me wonder how things would be if WB would have let JJ Abrams do that Superman movie years ago.
Honestly? I don't see it. I don't think Superman fits Abrams either. He's right at home with Trek and Wars.
I might have gone after someone like Christopher Columbus who comes right out of the Donner/Spielberg mold. And the first two Potters were very solid.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 10:04 am
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:04 am to OMLandshark
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I'm not proposing he be the director, but he's the one who should organize the universe. He's the one that knows these characters and what should adapt well to film. He should be the John Lasseter of this series and challenge the directors and call them out on their bullshite. There is clearly no one calling Snyder and Goyer out and they clearly haven't learned shite from their misteps in MoS.
OK. I can definitely see that.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:04 am to OMLandshark
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here is clearly no one calling Snyder and Goyer out and they clearly haven't learned shite from their misteps in MoS.
Why do you keep calling out Goyer? Hasn't he been removed from these films now?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:05 am to abellsujr
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All of this makes me wonder how things would be if WB would have let JJ Abrams do that Superman movie years ago.
Would've been great. Could've struck a much better balance of freshness & nostalgia than Singer & Snyder have tried.
Still wish they were using the John Williams Superman theme for the current version.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:05 am to Freauxzen
quote:I'm not saying he's not perfect for where he is. I'm just saying I think he would have done a good job. I think he has that lighthearted, fun feel that would have been perfect for what most people want in Superman, IMO. Either way, we'll never know.
Honestly? I don't see it. I don't think Superman fits Abrams either. He's right at home with Trek and Wars.
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:06 am to Fewer Kilometers
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James Gunn's only film director credit prior to Guardians of the Galaxy was Super (R rated and the most violent superhero movie ever made).
He directed the great horror comedy "Slither" as well.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:07 am to RLDSC FAN
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Why do you keep calling out Goyer? Hasn't he been removed from these films now?
Nope, he was one of the writers for this movie.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:08 am to Jester
quote:ok, lots of actors have trash lying around in their careers. they all can't be ddl or DiCaprio
He's had to a lot to make up for with the trash he put out earlier in his career.
I think he's more than made up for trash like pearl harbor and yes, the equally bad daredevil.
I'm looking forward to his vision for Batman.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:09 am to Freauxzen
You just reminded me...the over indulgence is out of control in action movies IMO. The action needs to be reigned in a little bit
As for batman, he's not that deep, but he has a unique character perspective and he has an emotional core to him. That's why batman properties have the highest potential because there's an emotional core to the story, there is both emotional and physical vulnerability to which the audience can relate, and he has an intensity to him that is the logical result of all of that, making him awesome
As for batman, he's not that deep, but he has a unique character perspective and he has an emotional core to him. That's why batman properties have the highest potential because there's an emotional core to the story, there is both emotional and physical vulnerability to which the audience can relate, and he has an intensity to him that is the logical result of all of that, making him awesome
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:11 am to Tactical1
Mark Richt had lost control of the reviews
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:12 am to FairhopeTider
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Still wish they were using the John Williams Superman theme for the current version.
It would be extremely out of place. Just imagine that theme during the destruction scenes in Man of Steel.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:17 am to Freauxzen
why is the donner movie so revered? Obviously, I didn't grow up during that time, but still seems pretty shitty and boring
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:19 am to BilJ
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why is the donner movie so revered? Obviously, I didn't grow up during that time, but still seems pretty shitty and boring
Nostalgia. As it is with Burton's Batman. Tons of problems with those movies, but they were the first serious film attempts with the characters. People forgave a lot to see serious superheroes for the first time.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:27 am to Fewer Kilometers
I love batman 1989, it's all style little substance but the production values are out of this world. Nicholson also turns in a good performance and that's why people remember it
It was the first movie I saw in theaters
It was the first movie I saw in theaters
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:29 am to TN Bhoy
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It would be extremely out of place. Just imagine that theme during the destruction scenes in Man of Steel.
That would actually be really funny. Might as well play the Benny Hill theme for how much Williams theme matches the tone of Man of Steel.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:38 am to OMLandshark
I'm seeing a lot of positive reactions from posters on other sites who've seen the film. They acknowledge the flaws but say it's a very entertaining film. Hopefully it's not nearly as bad as critics are making it out to be.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:41 am to RLDSC FAN
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I'm seeing a lot of positive reactions from posters on other sites who've seen the film. They acknowledge the flaws but say it's a very entertaining film. Hopefully it's not nearly as bad as critics are making it out to be.
You have to remember that most of the non-critics who have seen it are giddy fanboys.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:44 am to OMLandshark
Man, the Faraci review is just scathing, and hits two of my biggest gripes about Snyder.
ONE. He can't tell a story. I care deeply about writing and stroytelling, and if you can't tell a story, I'm gonna hate your film. A lot of people will give you a pass if you have a visual aesthetic, which Snyder does, but movies are stories. And if you fail at telling a story, you've failed at a very basic level.
TWO. He hates Superman. You cannot make a film if you have contempt for your hero and his ethos. I am driven insane by those who confusing cynicism and darkness for "adult". I'd argue that Superman's commitment to ideals and his unwavering goodness and selflessness ARE maturity. Children are all id, teenagers are narcissistic suckholes, and young adults aren't much better. It's really adults who are more likely to put others before themselves. That is a sign of maturity, and one that Snyder has openly mocked his entire career.
Clearly, I haven't seen the film, but these tendencies are all over his other films, so I'm willing to bet these are valid critiques of this movie as well. Snyder is the wrong guy to do Superman (though he could do Batman). The problem is not the DC properties, it's the hack they have entrusted with their cinematic vision.
ONE. He can't tell a story. I care deeply about writing and stroytelling, and if you can't tell a story, I'm gonna hate your film. A lot of people will give you a pass if you have a visual aesthetic, which Snyder does, but movies are stories. And if you fail at telling a story, you've failed at a very basic level.
TWO. He hates Superman. You cannot make a film if you have contempt for your hero and his ethos. I am driven insane by those who confusing cynicism and darkness for "adult". I'd argue that Superman's commitment to ideals and his unwavering goodness and selflessness ARE maturity. Children are all id, teenagers are narcissistic suckholes, and young adults aren't much better. It's really adults who are more likely to put others before themselves. That is a sign of maturity, and one that Snyder has openly mocked his entire career.
Clearly, I haven't seen the film, but these tendencies are all over his other films, so I'm willing to bet these are valid critiques of this movie as well. Snyder is the wrong guy to do Superman (though he could do Batman). The problem is not the DC properties, it's the hack they have entrusted with their cinematic vision.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:45 am to RLDSC FAN
I think that's where the disconnect is, fans are getting what they want.
While the critics seem to want something a little more light hearted. I've just seen one too many critics so far say, "could have used some jokes" or "too dark" They view these as children movies and want them treated as such.
While the critics seem to want something a little more light hearted. I've just seen one too many critics so far say, "could have used some jokes" or "too dark" They view these as children movies and want them treated as such.
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