re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice Tomato watch 29%

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IF......DC considers making a change, I think they will look very hard at the Suicide Squad reception. Both critical and fan base. I have no idea how good that movie is, but I know the buzz is good. If it does well critically, is David Ayer right for the JL job?

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I'd say go with Bruce Timm. He has probably been the most influential person in DC since the 90s and has managed a large scale universe and multiple projects going on simultaneously. Snyder has no experience with either of these. It's baffling to me that Warner Bros didn't use someone in house to orchestrate this universe.

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Im ready for some new ideas as well. shite, just look at all of the fun, action and adventure and even sci fi movies Spielberg made from 74-94. There just doesn't seem to be directors who grew up watching that (at least talented ones) that are interested in those kind of movies.

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I would love to see someone like Ron Howard tackle a comic book movie.

I wasn't interested in a JL movie and after I go watch BvS that won't change. I won't go see Green Lantern or Wonder Woman, not even Aquaman. The only DC hero I ever cared about was Batman and that hasn't changed.

The idea was that Geoff Johns was working behind the scenes. He has some good comics and animated movies. From what I'm hearing, the biggest problems are the construction of the film, pacing, and character motivations. I know Fury did a great job with establishing characters. It's just a thought. I guess we'll see how Suicide Squad turns out. I know Snyder was a producer on that, though.

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I don't get the hate for affleck, he's been putting out solid work as both an actor and especially director.

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He's had to a lot to make up for with the trash he put out earlier in his career.

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I think he should get a pass on Gigli since it's sandwiched between Dazed and Confused/Good Will Hunting and The Town/Argo.

The guy has acted/written/directed some of the best movies ever. Yet people still give him shite for agreeing to be in a couple of bad movies.

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Not that it should look and be like the dark knight (in fact, copying that movie has ruined a lot of movies, even bond films) but a competent director who treats the material more seriously than it deserves

That doesn't even mean I think they should all be serious movies, but rather handled with care.

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I think people sometimes don't connect these two together in terms of most comic book films.

Let's be honest, Comic books, for the most part, are not that deep. Not even Batman. Yes there are complex comic books and arcs, but 80% of your major heroes have very simple good vs. evil stories, even if that evil is the Joker. People kid themselves into thinking Batman is deep because he's dark, but there's a reason that a kid's show is still the best overall iteration of Batman. Because Batman isn't really that complex. At all. Even his stories aren't that complex. There's some fun stuff we can read into any comic book, even cheesy Jack Kirby's Captain America, but overall comic books aren't very layered unless you're looking at something like Saga, Y, etc.

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Im ready for some new ideas as well. shite, just look at all of the fun, action and adventure and even sci fi movies Spielberg made from 74-94. There just doesn't seem to be directors who grew up watching that (at least talented ones) that are interested in those kind of movies.

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We've been betrayed on solid action and adventure movies for a long time. And even when we get a good one, John Carter, it gets crapped on. I think that's one reason why John Wick is a great running joke around here. It's just an awesome throwback to great action movies. We want more of that. A lot more.

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Don't you mean especially Aquaman? He is the least appealing superhero possibly ever.

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And this kind of thinking is sad. Aquaman was some really great stories. He's a good character.

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How about George Miller?

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Nope. He's too reckless for JL, IMO. I don't know. I'll have to think about it.

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I don't think so. My concern with Suicide Squad is this will be Ayers first non-R rated film.

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James Gunn's only film director credit prior to Guardians of the Galaxy was Super (R rated and the most violent superhero movie ever made).

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James Gunn's only film director credit prior to Guardians of the Galaxy was Super (R rated and the most violent superhero movie ever made).

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I didn't mean it as a bad thing. I'm a big fan of David Ayers work, I just don't think he's much of a comic book fan. He's had some interviews where he basically trashes the genre.