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re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice Tomato watch 29%
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:07 am to udtiger
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:07 am to udtiger
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Yep. As much as Snyder may have fault for this, I think there was clear WB pressure.
Agreed. Sounds like exactly what I was saying, a similar Ironman 2 type movie, where they decide to play set up all movie long instead of giving you what you payed for.
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:08 am to Tactical1
Wow, disappointed that the score is this low. I try not to put too much weight in critic reviews, but when the RT score is in the 30's it has to have some serious problems. Hopefully it will still be a lot of fun to watch at least..
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:09 am to udtiger
The good thing about this, most of the hardcore fans are not blaming Marvel this time around. They're getting as fed up with WB and Snyder as I am. It's time...
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:11 am to abellsujr
I already know I'm going to enjoy this movie and laugh at everyone in this thread 
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 8:12 am
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:13 am to Byron Bojangles III
I think I'll enjoy it as well. But, having a mess like this is not helping anyone. DC deserves better than a three year gobbled up mess.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:15 am to Byron Bojangles III
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I already know I'm going to enjoy this movie and laugh at everyone in this thread
You do you.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:18 am to udtiger
The whole "Snyder needs to go" probably isn't going to happen, nor should it really. His movies draw and that's really all that matters. Warner Bros would really love to have a critical hit on their hands with this film, but I'm sure they will settle for a cash cow instead. It's not like Paramount ran Michael Bay off the Transformer series or anything.
Warner Bros is not going to be embarrassed by tickets sales next week, but this was kinda the gamble when it comes to hot shotting the universe in film 2. The real damning thing that probably comes in the aftermath of this film is that the perception of what you're going to get when you head to the cinemas for a Marvel film or DC film. Marvel you're going to get a film of high critical quality, and and with DC you're going to get some high stylized fan service.
I had lowered expectations heading up to the release of this film and frankly, if the movie gives me a rock em sockem third act, I'm not really going to care how good it was. Yes we have seen Batman and Superman done better before, but maybe it's time to shut the brain off and set the toys up on the coffee table like we use to.
Warner Bros is not going to be embarrassed by tickets sales next week, but this was kinda the gamble when it comes to hot shotting the universe in film 2. The real damning thing that probably comes in the aftermath of this film is that the perception of what you're going to get when you head to the cinemas for a Marvel film or DC film. Marvel you're going to get a film of high critical quality, and and with DC you're going to get some high stylized fan service.
I had lowered expectations heading up to the release of this film and frankly, if the movie gives me a rock em sockem third act, I'm not really going to care how good it was. Yes we have seen Batman and Superman done better before, but maybe it's time to shut the brain off and set the toys up on the coffee table like we use to.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:18 am to abellsujr
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I think I'll enjoy it as well. But, having a mess like this is not helping anyone. DC deserves better than a three year gobbled up mess.
That is the problem. WB thinks they can make a sub par product, and sell you a garbage movie with Batman in the title and regardless of the product itself, people will pay money. This is proven by adding 4 characters into the SECOND movie in this universe. They expect to keep getting paid regardless how good or bad it is. And that is why I have a major problem with not only all Superhero movies, but Hollywood as a whole.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:24 am to abellsujr
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I think I'll enjoy it as well. But, having a mess like this is not helping anyone. DC deserves better than a three year gobbled up mess.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:24 am to xenythx
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I think there will be a pretty big disconnect between the general audience and the critics.
I think the general audience will generally like it because, if nothing else, it's one giant piece of fan service. People have been waiting for this fight/team up to come to the big screen for so long. And there will be some cool fight scenes, cameos, callback to the comics, and easter eggs so fan boys will like that.
The thing is we've gotten a lot of good fan pieces recently, with Jurrassic World, Deadpool, and Star Wars. I don't think the general audience is going to accept shite as fan service when it's bad. If they accept this, it will be the final piece of bad fan service they'll accept.
Plus it would help if the fan service were given by an actual fan, and I'm not so sure Snyder even likes Superman.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:29 am to lsutigertalk
To be fair, most of the Marvel movies have been great. None have been perfect, but CA2, GotG, Ant-Man, and Iron Man were all amazing films. Marvel for the most part makes movies that do their characters justice and showcase the director's strengths.
WB and Fox are both make shitty comic book movies because they are just trying to get easy money. Marvel has shown way more respect than either of those two. CA3 & Doctor Strange both seem like they are going to be epic.
WB and Fox are both make shitty comic book movies because they are just trying to get easy money. Marvel has shown way more respect than either of those two. CA3 & Doctor Strange both seem like they are going to be epic.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:33 am to Tactical1
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The whole "Snyder needs to go" probably isn't going to happen, nor should it really. His movies draw and that's really all that matters. Warner Bros would really love to have a critical hit on their hands with this film, but I'm sure they will settle for a cash cow instead. It's not like Paramount ran Michael Bay off the Transformer series or anything.
Does Snyder really draw a crowd? Yes Dawn of the Dead and 300 were complete successes, but his 3 films between Man of Steel didn't make back budgeting and marketing costs. And Man of Steel has serious brand recognition, but it was considered a disappointment at the box office. It is baffling to me why he was chosen to head this universe.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:37 am to OMLandshark
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Does Snyder really draw a crowd?
Snyder himself probably doesn't, but "from the director of 300" slapped on most of products couldn't have hurt. That scooter has probably run out of gas now.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:38 am to ThoseGuys
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To be fair, most of the Marvel movies have been great. None have been perfect, but CA2, GotG, Ant-Man, and Iron Man were all amazing films. Marvel for the most part makes movies that do their characters justice and showcase the director's strengths. WB and Fox are both make shitty comic book movies because they are just trying to get easy money. Marvel has shown way more respect than either of those two. CA3 & Doctor Strange both seem like they are going to be epic.
I disagree. A lot of the Marvel films are mediocre time filler/hold over pieces just to keep fans waiting for when they rejoin as the Avengers, one of which was ok. Marvel is the kid that thinks every square inch of the picture needs to have something on it, in order for the picture to look nice. Even if half of it is filled with garbage.
I am not sitting here saying DC is any better, they are both pretty similar but at least Marvel's movies are usually fun to watch at least the first time. It isn't until you re-watch the films that you shrug and say 'meh'. Man of Steel was not fun the first time nor was it that good. Likely will be the same for BvS.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 8:40 am
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:49 am to lsutigertalk
from some of the reviews I have read, there does seem to be a certain segment of them that seem hell bent on trying to be behind the movement that stops the comic book film craze
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:54 am to BilJ
I don't get the hate for affleck, he's been putting out solid work as both an actor and especially director.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:57 am to BilJ
Nothing wrong with comic book films as long as they are good. A decent bit of Marvel's films just aren't entertaining or re-watchable. To me if a movie isn't re-watchable it hurts how good I perceive it to be, and Marvel movies like the Avengers are not enjoyable on 2nd and 3rd watches.
The Dark Knight is the last one I can remember that if I had to watch it 3 times in a day, I could manage. It needs to be about quality instead of quantity.
The Dark Knight is the last one I can remember that if I had to watch it 3 times in a day, I could manage. It needs to be about quality instead of quantity.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:58 am to Tactical1
This helps lessen my expectations at least...
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:59 am to The Egg
Man, Drew Mcweeny must have the biggest smile on his face right now.
I don't really care what some of the big media critics think, but it really sucks to hear people like Jeremy Jahns, and Jet from BOF, say they were disappointed. Damn you Snyder, you had one job to do
I don't really care what some of the big media critics think, but it really sucks to hear people like Jeremy Jahns, and Jet from BOF, say they were disappointed. Damn you Snyder, you had one job to do
Posted on 3/23/16 at 9:01 am to lsutigertalk
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Nothing wrong with comic book films as long as they are good. A decent bit of Marvel's films just aren't entertaining or re-watchable
Agreed. That's been my problem with the Marvel films, they're completely forgettable.
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