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re: Arnold vs. Stallone
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:48 pm to saintsfan22
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:48 pm to saintsfan22
quote:
I don't even know who's stepping into Arnold's roles,
OJ Simpson was originally supposed to be The Terminator so that had the potential for a whole lot of future awkwardness, especially if he would have ended up with some of those other roles.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:51 pm to Matisyeezy
Arnold and it isn’t close. No one is doing what he did in the roles he had.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:33 pm to Globetrotter747
Stallone! I could do without Arnold. Stallone has been excellent in some of his movies.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:39 pm to Globetrotter747
It had nothing to do with movies he liked by Stallone, he totally forgot about Rocky.
Nothing more nothing less
Nothing more nothing less
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:48 pm to saintsfan22
Since 2010
Stallone:
Expendables
Zoo Keeper
Expendables 2
Bullet to the Head
Escape Plan
Grudgematch
Expendables 3
Creed
Creed 2
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Escape Plan 2
Rambo Last Blood
Arnold:
Expendables
Expendables 2
Last Stand
Escape Plan
Sabotage
Expendables 3
Terminator Genisys
Maggie
Aftermath
Terminator Dark Faith
Give me Stallone
Stallone:
Expendables
Zoo Keeper
Expendables 2
Bullet to the Head
Escape Plan
Grudgematch
Expendables 3
Creed
Creed 2
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Escape Plan 2
Rambo Last Blood
Arnold:
Expendables
Expendables 2
Last Stand
Escape Plan
Sabotage
Expendables 3
Terminator Genisys
Maggie
Aftermath
Terminator Dark Faith
Give me Stallone
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:49 pm to tduecen
quote:
Honestly Stallone has had a better career
Not at all. Stallone has a lot of entertaining movies but most of them are borderline B level shlock. Stallone is certainly the better dramatic actor but as far as big blockbuster action movies no one can touch peak Arnold.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:28 pm to Matisyeezy
quote:
Last Action Hero
Twins
Junior
Jingle All the Way
Tell me you’d be okay with Stallone taking those roles.
I could see Stallone in all those. The comedies are hurt because you lose Arnold's physical size but I could see it.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:44 pm to Globetrotter747
Stallone, easy. Without Stallone, we don't have the greatest action movie of all time.
Expendables 3
Expendables 3
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:17 pm to Globetrotter747
Rocky (the original film, not the character in general) muddies the argument because it’s a frickin academy award winning movie and everything else both these guys did were action and sci-fi flicks.
Without rocky, it’s Arnold in a landslide.
Even with rocky considered, Arnold is the bigger “star”.
Without rocky, it’s Arnold in a landslide.
Even with rocky considered, Arnold is the bigger “star”.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 7:53 am
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:34 pm to Globetrotter747
Stallone was a much better actor/movies and brought ya better moments.
Arnold rose from a bodybuilder, which is the equivalent or prob less in popularity to a wrestler (the Rock) and became the governor of a state.
My vote is Stallone, but it really is remarkable the ranks Arnold came up through and what he became.
Rocky probably represents the greatest American male ever though. Great movies. From a film standpoint, Arnold was a punchline...no pun intended.
Rocko’s speech on the street to his son during Balboa as well as ‘stuff in the basemebt’ to Pauly still brings tears to my eyes. Arnold has never made me cry.
Arnold rose from a bodybuilder, which is the equivalent or prob less in popularity to a wrestler (the Rock) and became the governor of a state.
My vote is Stallone, but it really is remarkable the ranks Arnold came up through and what he became.
Rocky probably represents the greatest American male ever though. Great movies. From a film standpoint, Arnold was a punchline...no pun intended.
Rocko’s speech on the street to his son during Balboa as well as ‘stuff in the basemebt’ to Pauly still brings tears to my eyes. Arnold has never made me cry.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:38 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
but he definitely isn't pulling off a Philly boxer sounding like he just got off the boat from Europe.
Probably not but let's not forget that Stallone was barely believable once he got in the ring.Horrible athlete and WAY too short to pull off as a HW boxer.
Carl Weathers covered for a TON of Stallone's short comings in the boxing scenes.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:53 am to Globetrotter747
quote:
Seemed like an intentionally biased post
Well my post about my tastes is obviously biased...
Posted on 5/20/20 at 2:19 am to 632627
quote:
Without rocky, it’s Arnold in a landslide.
Yeah I agree with that.
But you can't just take out one of the most iconic characters in movie history and say, now let's debate. I mean Philly built a statue to a fictional character.
I mean if we're asking who had the more iconic characters it's Stallone. Rocky/Rambo
Who's the biggest action movie star it's Arnold.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 2:22 am
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:52 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Yeah I agree with that.
But you can't just take out one of the most iconic characters in movie history and say, now let's debate. I mean Philly built a statue to a fictional character.
I meant Rocky, the original movie, and not the character in general. Yes, I would agree that in terms of iconic characters, rocky + Rambo > terminator.
What I meant was that both these guys have similar catalogues outside of the original rocky film, as it’s a major outlier (as an Oscar winning best picture) to the rest of their work.
The title of the thread is Arnold vs. Stallone. Reading that, I automatically think “which is the bigger icon/star?” Or “which is the greater action hero”? I don’t think “which is the best dramatic actor”?
I just think Arnold, despite not having an Oscar like Stallone, is the bigger Hollywood icon. I also think Arnold’s portfolio of terminator, t2, true lies and predator (which are all legit great movies amongst all the b level stuff they’ve both done) makes him the GOAT action hero.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 11:03 am to kingbob
quote:
Arnold had more great movies, Stallone had the best movie.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 11:32 am to Globetrotter747
I'll give the edge to Stallone if only for creating the "Rocky" series. The Rocky Balboa character is forever ingrained in the collective American consciousness. He is the underdog who fights his way out of poverty to become multiple-time heavyweight champion of the world. If "Eye of the Tiger" or "No Easy Way Out" don't get your blood pumping, you just can't be reached. My oldest child is only 7-years-old and I've already quoted lines from "Rocky" films to her in tough times to help her pull through. There's a statue of the guy, for Christ's sake...
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:41 pm to Hoodie
The main thing to keep in mind is how the question is worded. It's not who was necessarily better but how the film industry would have been affected without that person.
Without Arnold, I am going to assume there is still a Terminator franchise. Would it have been as good with someone else in Arnold's role? Maybe or maybe not. But it's not like it's a super challenging role that needed a special actor. He played an unemotional cyborg.
I think the fact that Stallone created the Rocky franchise and at least had a hand in writing the Rambo films gives him an edge.
Without Arnold, I am going to assume there is still a Terminator franchise. Would it have been as good with someone else in Arnold's role? Maybe or maybe not. But it's not like it's a super challenging role that needed a special actor. He played an unemotional cyborg.
I think the fact that Stallone created the Rocky franchise and at least had a hand in writing the Rambo films gives him an edge.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:44 pm to Matisyeezy
quote:You're kidding, right?
Last Action Hero
Twins
Junior
Jingle All the Way
Tell me you’d be okay with Stallone taking those roles. Ahnold just has more range.
Stallone is a decent actor who got bowed-up and stereotyped. Arnold was a body builder who landed roles on his physique.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:21 pm to Globetrotter747
Arnold's blockbusters >>> Stallone's biggest movies
BUT
Arnold's B-sides are WAY less enjoyable than Stallone's -- Over the Top, Cobra, Cliffhanger, Demo Man, Assassins, Daylight, Cop Land
BUT
Arnold's B-sides are WAY less enjoyable than Stallone's -- Over the Top, Cobra, Cliffhanger, Demo Man, Assassins, Daylight, Cop Land
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