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Posted on 5/14/25 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by Esquire
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Posted by A12 Oxcart
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 4:34 pm to
Amazing series.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 5:59 pm to
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K2 is an awesome character, but if we're being fair, KX droids are OP as frick. The physics of them don't make sense to me. They must be super expensive to make, otherwise you'd think the Empire would use them everywhere.

This is a mature, adult imagining of the Star Wars universe...

One of the things I've always hated about the prequels is the goofy "roger roger" battle droid that breaks when you knock one over, that falls down "dead" when you shoot it. We're talking about a civilization that has managed FTL intergalactic travel for millennia; and THAT'S what you come up with to go to war with?
I've always felt they should have been comparable to Terminators at the very least, to invoke some sense of intimidation etc. Basically, the KX droids are what the battle droids SHOULD have been.

As for the Empire using them more, remember you're still living in the post-Clone Wars era. Everyone, including the military, would be leery of AI combatants. Even if they're your own, there's a risk of being hacked (like K2SO)
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:59 pm to
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"We want the production designer from Chernobyl."


I didn't know this. I can count 4 Chernobyl actors in Andor off the top of my head.
Posted by j1897
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:14 pm to
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civilization that has managed FTL intergalactic travel for millennia


My only problem with the series, FTL travel through hyperspace but can't encrypt communications... wha?

Didn't really like the first 3 episodes of s2, but damn as a whole it's great, and the series is best star wars content i've seen since Empire.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:28 pm to
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but damn as a whole it's great, and the series is best star wars content i've seen [period]
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:59 pm to
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My only problem with the series, FTL travel through hyperspace but can't encrypt communications... wha?


The SW universe has some basic tech that is lacking and is a head scratcher, but I've come to accept the universe for what it is. Like, for instance, the universe should be covered in facial recognition technology, but they don't seem to have it. Andor should have been picked up years ago by facial recognition software.

There's a short story called The Road Not Taken that is related. It's about a civilization that discovered gravity manipulation by accident before they went through an industrial revolution, and because of that, they're technology stopped there and never really progressed. They show up to conquer earth, but they basically have muskets and get curb stomped. Then they realize they fricked up by giving Earth this technology. PDF Link
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:12 pm to
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My only problem with the series, FTL travel through hyperspace but can't encrypt communications... wha?

Well... that kinda makes sense.

It's not so much that you can't encrypt communications; I imagine that there are plenty of encrypted things (banking etc). It's just that the Empire (ISB with all it's resources) can and will crack anything.
That's why Luthen and Kleya went to a version of Morse code. Too old to draw notice, until you specifically look for it.
Posted by bluestem75
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:28 pm to
The creative team did an excellent job of keeping these last three episodes unpredictable.

I had the feels for Dedra a bit. All she did was deliver a crucial spy to them but, because she went off script, she gets punished. I mean, the irony of where she finds herself is a fitting end, but I did pity her.

No wonder the New Republic was shite. We caught a glimpse of the dysfunction in the scene where Cassian brings the news of the Death Star. I wanted Mon to look at Bail and say, “Well, at least Luthen’s intel got me off the planet. Your team had an Imperial spy in it.”

Spots where I gasped:
Lonnie’s death
Luthen’s death
Dedra’s denouement
K-2SO going to town on those Imperial soldiers
Bix and her son
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 10:29 pm
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:33 pm to
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Luthen’s death


He took the dramatic way out, and the story following made for great television, but he could have easily put a bolt in her and gone out in a blaze.
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:02 am to
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He took the dramatic way out, and the story following made for great television, but he could have easily put a bolt in her and gone out in a blaze.


He knew he couldn’t do that because the troopers would have been told to put there weapons on stun and even if he tried to go out in a blaze, numbers say at least one would have stunned him unconscious and be taken in.
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Posted by WestSideTiger
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:05 am to
It’s pretty crazy that he let her in in the first place. He had to know what she was there for. He could have finished himself off properly and not caused all that commotion. What he ended up doing had to be painful.



Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:40 am to
Yeah, if the situation was real, they both messed up. He should've never let her in and taken a cyanide pill or something. She should've never gone in. Just had her team waiting to surprise him when the timing was perfect. Also,in hindsight, it was really dumb for her to give a weapon back to him.

Having said that, their interaction was one of the best moments of the show. So, I'm glad none of my first paragraph happened.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 7:01 am
Posted by MAXtheTIGER
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:49 am to
I was legitimately sad after watching episode 12 to think there was no more story to tell. This has been the best TV experience I’ve had in a long time.

Luthen has become my new favourite Star Wars character.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:15 am to
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This has been the best TV experience I’ve had in a long time.
After seeing Andor start to finish, does anyone have a reappraisal of Edwards’s/Gilroy’s respective responsibility for Rogue One?

My guess now:
Gilroy - everything good
Edward’s - stunning visuals and everything bad
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:44 am to
Yeah, they were already in the process of destroying evidence before she even got there.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:51 am to
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Yeah, they were already in the process of destroying evidence before she even got there.


I'm honestly a little surprised that the entire back area where their rebel operations we wasn't just rigged to explode a long time ago. I understand they needed it as a plot device to be able to track down the apartment, but logically before Luthen (tried to) kill himself he would have clicked a hardwired button somewhere in the shop hidden under one of the pedestals and blown all the evidence to atoms. Wouldn't have to have been an earth shattering explosion that would have killed bystanders, just enough to clear that backroom.

overconfidence of either never expecting to really get caught or maybe thought their archaic communication methods wouldn't be figured out by the ISB.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:33 am to
My post was misconstrued anyway, but that's my fault for not being clear. I wasn't starting on January 1st either.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 9:21 am to
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overconfidence of either never expecting to really get caught or maybe thought their archaic communication methods wouldn't be figured out by the ISB.


The scene where the tech was "impressed" by the setup was funny
Posted by dcw7g
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:07 am to
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I had the feels for Dedra a bit. All she did was deliver a crucial spy to them but, because she went off script, she gets punished
When Dedra was confronting Luthen by herself my first thought was disappointment that Gilroy had gotten lazy because he wanted a cool one-on-one scene with a "villain monologue", the type of thing we've seen a million times before that is cool but not realistic. Turns out it was Dedra's screwup because she wanted the one-on-one confrontation, and she paid for it. It's almost a commentary on movie tropes, if you think about it that way.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 10:08 am
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