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re: Why do Americans tolerate socialist, monopolistic sports leagues?
Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:20 am to LfcSU3520
Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:20 am to LfcSU3520
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it's a very valid and thought out question and from the first page of replies you're not getting dick for good responses.
It's because of who posted it, friend.
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Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
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and if you refuse you don't get to be an engineer anywhere
There are other leagues around the world (and even in this country) they can choose to join. Basketball especially.
They can also opt to sit out the draft and choose their own team a year later (I believe).
The market does not demand a high amount of these professions. Ergo, alternate products outside of the major leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA) will not thrive like their big brothers.
Not to mention, I think anyone is pretty much okay with relocating if it means a minimum of an upper 6 figure salary with the potential of millions. Especially considering they weren't making anything to begin with.
ETA: Comparing this to white collar jobs like engineering, accounting, etc... is apples and oranges. The market demands are vastly different.
This post was edited on 4/12/15 at 2:27 am
Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:27 am to Draconian Sanctions
1) We don't force them into these sports. It's an individual choice to choose a career path with limited high end opportunities.
2) The players have these things called "unions".
ETA: Obvious MLB ruleZ and NBA/NFL droolZ thread is obvious.
2) The players have these things called "unions".
ETA: Obvious MLB ruleZ and NBA/NFL droolZ thread is obvious.
This post was edited on 4/12/15 at 2:32 am
Posted on 4/12/15 at 2:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
You suck at trolling.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 3:12 am to LfcSU3520
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great point
google...
Posted on 4/12/15 at 5:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
Why do people here tolerate political posts in forums where they do not belong?
Posted on 4/12/15 at 5:49 am to Draconian Sanctions
It's all about the money.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 7:45 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Why do Americans tolerate socialist, monopolistic sports leagues?
Nothing is stopping other leagues from starting up? The NFL, MLB, and NBA just have superior products than the other leagues so they go the fans. That is capitalism 101 and America 101.
Do us all a favor and just move to France already
Posted on 4/12/15 at 7:47 am to ShamelessPel
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Obvious MLB ruleZ and NBA/NFL droolZ thread is obvious.
I don't think this is about MLB vs NBA/NFL.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 7:48 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Strictly speaking, being a lawyer is a limited market too, yet nobody told me I had to ply my trade in Green Bay or nowhere at all regardless of how i felt about it.
Nobody tells football players that either. They can go play Arenaball or join an independent league if they don't like the Packers.
Those leagues just won't pay as well, but that's a choice the player makes. I could easily make over $100K in Silicon Valley but I don't want to move there.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 7:57 am to Socratics
quote:Sheesh. Not this stupidity again.
Why should the Dallas Cowboys have artificial limits placed on them so the Jacksonville Jaguars can compete better.
The league does it because it is ONE league and that ONE league recognizes that a league with only 4-5 teams that have a snowball's chance in hell of winning would not generate as much revenue as the one they have.
Remember, the teams are NOT independent businesses. They are FRANCHISES.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 9:27 am to LfcSU3520
quote:
it's a very valid and thought out question and from the first page of replies you're not getting dick for good responses.
Shocker, right?
Posted on 4/12/15 at 9:29 am to The Boat
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It's because of who posted it, friend.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 9:41 am to Draconian Sanctions
It's ironic. America is one of the most right-wing countries on the face of the earth yet their sports leagues are the most socialist of all. Three of their four major sports league have a salary cap and the one that doesn't (MLB) have extensive revenue sharing. Meanwhile, socialist paradise Europe's top soccer leagues are much more cutthroat and capitalistic. I'm not going to debate which economic system is better but the U.S. certainly has the superior sports structure. It allows everyone to have a legitimate shot at eventually building a team good enough to win the championship. You definitely can't say the same for the Premier League or La Liga.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 9:48 am to WeeWee
quote:Exactly. In fact, there are rumours that LeBron, Durant, Paul, Curry, etc (the major stars) may threaten to "create" another league, as a bargaining tactic. It is very unlikely that it would happen, but hey, but these players know they have a lot of power and popularity in the market, so they would be using their advantage. Doesn't sound socialistic to me.
Nothing is stopping other leagues from starting up? The NFL, MLB, and NBA just have superior products than the other leagues so they go the fans. That is capitalism 101 and America 101.
This post was edited on 4/12/15 at 9:49 am
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:02 am to buckeye_vol
It's interesting/sad to listen to y'all defend the monopolistic corporatism that dominates American sports.
And no it's not the best system, it's the worst. Both for the workers and the fans.
And no it's not the best system, it's the worst. Both for the workers and the fans.
This post was edited on 4/12/15 at 10:04 am
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:12 am to Draconian Sanctions
You are honestly one of the biggest d-bags on this site..
That is quite the feat
That is quite the feat
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:It's sad that you can't that it isn't so much of a defense FOR the leagues, as I've as it is a defense AGAINST your fallacy-laden argument.
It's interesting/sad to listen to y'all defend the monopolistic corporatism that dominates American sports.
And no it's not the best system, it's the worst. Both for the workers and the fans.
This post was edited on 4/12/15 at 10:15 am
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:21 am to Mr. Hangover
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You are honestly one of the biggest d-bags on this site..
That is quite the feat
I don't think that's true considering you're the one turning to personal attacks, not me.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:24 am to Draconian Sanctions
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The Arena Football League
that's not a viable alternative and you know it
why bc they don't pay enough money?
you probably believe he should have been paid in college
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