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re: who in the Bear organization watched JD QB and watched caleb QB
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:22 am to lsufball19
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:22 am to lsufball19
I can’t imagine getting owned the way this dude has been owned in this thread lol
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:17 am to dawgdayafternoon
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How did so many posters miss the sarcasm here?
Who the hell promotes Caleb as generational talent at this point and sprinkle it with a “bro”?
Posted on 1/19/25 at 5:31 am to PeteRose
Generational talent?
You goofball
You goofball
Posted on 1/19/25 at 7:28 am to lionward2014
I think that's a valid point. What I don't get is that the Bears did not even bring Jayden Daniels in for a tryout at their facility. I don't get that. I think that would just be doing your job as an organization.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:05 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:I dont often suck dicks, but when I do they are in the NFC Championship game for the first time in 3 decades on a team that won 4 games the previous year.
That yall are Jayden dick suckers
Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:54 am to JamalMurry27
Look man, I know we are biased as LSU fans, and yes Williams is a talent.
But I can't believe folks whose job and livelihood to evaluate these guys did not see the red flags with Williams? The flakiness and the leadership issues he's had are not unknown.
Now he may turn out o.k. in the next few years, but not playing well with others would concern me enough to where if it were close I'd take the guy whose close in talent that does not have those question marks.
But I can't believe folks whose job and livelihood to evaluate these guys did not see the red flags with Williams? The flakiness and the leadership issues he's had are not unknown.
Now he may turn out o.k. in the next few years, but not playing well with others would concern me enough to where if it were close I'd take the guy whose close in talent that does not have those question marks.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:01 am to JamalMurry27
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:02 am to JamalMurry27
Didn’t the Bears pick Trubisky over Mahomes? They are incompetent.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:32 am to Tiger Ugly
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Now he may turn out o.k. in the next few years, but not playing well with others would concern me enough to where if it were close I'd take the guy whose close in talent that does not have those question marks.
He had a pretty good rookie season with maybe one of the worst head coaches I’ve ever seen. Not nearly as good as JD, but your post implies he had a Garrett Wilson year, which isn’t even close
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:41 am to Lolathon234
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You should hold off on this, teams haven't schemed to take away Daniels legs yet. They will moving forward, Williams on the otherhand can make every throw and doesn't need his legs, thus can't really be schemed against. Comparisons remind of Luck vs RGIII in their rookie seasons
Holy Christ!
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:06 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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e had a pretty good rookie season with maybe one of the worst head coaches I’ve ever seen
That's certainly the narrative from Chicago fans who have not given up on him. And I do think there one can rationalize for Williams to some extent because of it. But I'll emphasize the "to some extent".
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your post implies he had a Garrett Wilson year, which isn’t even close
The wide receiver from the Jets? I'm not sure the link - was Garret a locker room issue. Because if so I do think there's a fair amount of evidence that Williams does not play well with others and all I said was given that I would have paid attention if I was the Bears.
I also said he could turn out to be a good QB. But were I a Bears fan (I'm not) I'd still have concerns whoever the new coach is.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:11 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Caleb was consensus number one, so definitely not only the bears
And yet the only team responsible for that “consensus” is the Bears.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:23 am to Tiger Ugly
Zach Wilson, Mingo regrets the error
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:59 am to Wayne Campbell
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And yet the only team responsible for that “consensus” is the Bears.
the consensus he is talking about is draft pundits, we have no idea what the teams scouting reports on williams vs daniels looked like
draft pundits are manipulated by agents and GMs all the time
IMHO the single biggest difference between JD and CW was not predictable and that is JD’s poise under fire vs CW’s lack of poise. JD5 has a calmness about him that is exceedingly rare but vital to NFL QBs
you have it or you dont and it is very difficult to develop.
no scout can know how a QB will respond to NFL pressure until the guy is in the League. now maybe things get better and slow down for CW but maybe they dont. JD5 will only get better unless something really bad happens to him to derail his career.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:38 pm to supatigah
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he consensus he is talking about is draft pundits, we have no idea what the teams scouting reports on williams vs daniels looked like
I understand that. The point I was making is regardless of what the pre-draft “consensus” was, the only organization that is responsible is the Bears.
If he busts, no one’s job will be saved by the argument that he was the consensus number 1 pick.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:49 pm to supatigah
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the single biggest difference between JD and CW was not predictable and that is JD’s poise under fire vs CW’s lack of poise. JD5 has a calmness about him that is exceedingly rare but vital to NFL QBs
Well if that's the case, then the GM is incompetent. Anyone with a brain could see the difference between JD and Caleb Williams. JD displayed that calmness throughout the season in his Heisman year.
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you have it or you dont and it is very difficult to develop.
Exactly. And Caleb never displayed that trait throughout his college career.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:50 pm to Lolathon234
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You should hold off on this, teams haven't schemed to take away Daniels legs yet. They will moving forward, Williams on the otherhand can make every throw and doesn't need his legs, thus can't really be schemed against. Comparisons remind of Luck vs RGIII in their rookie seasons
Yeah but Jayden has exceedingly good arm talent as well. This is early career Lamar looking like he’s throwing the football at a dartboard. He’s very accurate and has a powerful arm. He also doesn’t prematurely bail from the pocket like a lot of young mobile QBs.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:21 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Every other player on the Commies sucks. JD can’t carry every single game, that one doesn’t count
The fact you don’t see the irony in this post when the guy you’re agreeing with is the one claiming a game actually doesn’t count is, quite amusing.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:24 pm to sms151t
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Wonder if you switched the two who would’ve had the better season
Williams stats if I recall weren’t to far off except in rushing, as Chicago did ask Williams to run.
Yeah, imagine Daniels with Keenan Allen, DJ Moore and Rome Odunze instead of Terry McLaurin and Dynamite Brown. McLaurin is very good, but the rest of their pass catchers are a bunch of journeyman ST players.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:24 pm to Lolathon234
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You should hold off on this, teams haven
If teams have not yet schemed for his running ability, then those defensive coordinators should be fired. That said, you can’t sit back and just let him pass with no pressure - he can handle that also. He is very difficult to successfully scheme against.
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