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Speedy G
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
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Possible evolution of the catcher as well. More athletic more accurate throwers

Caught stealing percentages used to be much higher. Roy Campanella is the all time leader at 57%. You need to go pretty far down the list to find any modern catchers. Certainly part of that is that practically anyone would attempt to steal back then.

The slide step went mainstream around 1990, just as steroid use was spreading everywhere. Then modern analytics started showing more definitive risk/reward analysis, and the proliferation of the PED aided HR tilted that ratio heavily toward cautious baserunning.

Stolen bases tried to make a bit of a comeback when PEDs were finally addressed, but new analytics have apparently proven that always trying to hit the ball as far as you can is the most efficient way to score runs.

Baseball needs bigger ballparks.


Mizz-SEC
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
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I feel like Ricky would steal third base as well. You never see anyone steal third


The great base stealers will tell you stealing 3rd was easier than 2nd due to the better jump.


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LUS Tiger in FL
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
Rickey was better than good. He would tell you that as well.

Use to love watching Coleman and Mcgee as a skinny kid myself lol


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Adam Banks
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
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Catchers are better and pitchers are throwing harder.


Catchers aren’t better. Replay happened and rather than giving the base/tie goes to the runner we now have instances such as guys getting “out” because the beat the throw but they momentarily lost contact with him the base while sliding and the shortstop kept the glove on.

The margin of error is nil now which sucks because base stealing is fun to watch


extremetigerfanatic
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
My favorite part of the Rickey Henderson story is that the afternoon he set the record held up the base and made that retarded speech about him being the greatest... then Nolan Ryan threw his seventh no hitter that night and Rickey was an afterthought.


Paul Allen
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
“Lou Brock was the greatest...but now I AM the greatest”


JodyPlauche
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
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Was Rickey Henderson that good?


If I had the 1st pick in the all-time MLB draft (not including pitchers)...he is my pick.

I think when he applied himself...he was the best baseball player ever.


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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
Not sure about best ever but he is the GoAT lead off hitter EVER and it’s not even close.


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gobuxgo5
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
Everyone is trying to smash a home run, so whats the point of going from 1st to 2nd base when the batter is going for the fences and not a base hit?


theunknownknight
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
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Schmidt


I really like Schmidt, but no way he’s on the same level as Mays


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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
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SB are cool, but the most awesome play in baseball is stealing home from third base. Run the stats on that.


The Georgia Peach and there ain’t a close second.


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VerlanderBEAST
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
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If I had the 1st pick in the all-time MLB draft (not including pitchers)...he is my pick.

I think when he applied himself...he was the best baseball player ever.
The key is if applied himself. Because as good as he was stealing bases he was(considering his speed) otherwise a shitty baserunner

Ryne Sandberg for example in 900 fewer games had 10 more triples.

He was also terrible when it comes to advancing on hits


Zendog
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
Why steal a base when all hitters do is hit home runs or strike out?

And yes....he was.


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chalmetteowl
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
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otherwise a shitty baserunner

Ryne Sandberg for example in 900 fewer games had 10 more triples.


Hold up... when you have a possible triple, aren’t you usually busting arse out of the batters box? Was he not good at spotting the third base coach?


Bench McElroy
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
The long standing theory is that Rickey hated going for triples because it would take away from his stolen base opportunities. It's obviously a lot harder to steal home than it is third base.


TnMountaineer
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
Vince Coleman. GOAT.



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moock blackjack
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
Rickey was the best ever!


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Rocco Lampone
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
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My first game ever was in Oakland.

Rickey led off with a homerun and stole a bag that game. Made my day. I had several Rickey posters on my wall.

Eta... whole game made my day. Everyone noteworthy made plays. Dave Stewart started. Bad arse day I'll never forget.


Did Eck close it out?


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Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
Still have his rookie card. Was my favorite player all time.


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VerlanderBEAST
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re: What happened to stolen bases in baseball? Was Rickey Henderson that good?
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The long standing theory is that Rickey hated going for triples because it would take away from his stolen base opportunities. It's obviously a lot harder to steal home than it is third base.
probably the same reason why he would rarely go from 2nd to 3rd on a fly out. Or score from 1st on a double

If Rickey hustled on the bases like Pete Rose he would probably have been the best ever, better than Bonds and Ruth.

Rickey is already the all time leading run scorer and he probably left 300+ runs on the table
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