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Was Troy Aikman overrated?
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:02 am
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:02 am
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His stats were kind of mediocre. Maybe it is not fair to compare QB stats of that era to the modern "pass happy" era?
165 TD
141 INT
81.6 QBR
Also had a HOF WR, all time rushhing leader, a HOF TE, and multiple All-Pros on his line.
His stats were kind of mediocre. Maybe it is not fair to compare QB stats of that era to the modern "pass happy" era?
165 TD
141 INT
81.6 QBR
Also had a HOF WR, all time rushhing leader, a HOF TE, and multiple All-Pros on his line.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 8:14 am
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:11 am to burger bearcat
Yes.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:13 am to burger bearcat
Seems to me that he’s properly rated. He’s in the hall of fame, but no one really considers him one of the truly great quarterbacks of all time.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:13 am to burger bearcat
I think so.
Those cowboy teams were so loaded the only thing the QB had to do was not screw up.
Those cowboy teams were so loaded the only thing the QB had to do was not screw up.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:14 am to burger bearcat
I wouldn't say overrated. He did what he needed to do to win. Game manager? Sure. He's only in the HOF because he won 3 Super Bowls.
I do have an issue with some of his "Pro Bowls"
In three of his Pro Bowl's, these were his stats:
2,754 yards 11 TD - 10 INT
2,676 yards 13 TD - 12 INT
3,126 yards 12 TD - 13 INT
When Jim Everett was the NFL's Passing TD leader in 1988 and 1989 and he didn't make the Pro Bowl with these numbers:
3,964 yards 31 TD - 18 INT
4,310 yards 29 TD - 17 INT
Just shows you how much of a popularity contest it is.
I do have an issue with some of his "Pro Bowls"
In three of his Pro Bowl's, these were his stats:
2,754 yards 11 TD - 10 INT
2,676 yards 13 TD - 12 INT
3,126 yards 12 TD - 13 INT
When Jim Everett was the NFL's Passing TD leader in 1988 and 1989 and he didn't make the Pro Bowl with these numbers:
3,964 yards 31 TD - 18 INT
4,310 yards 29 TD - 17 INT
Just shows you how much of a popularity contest it is.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:18 am to burger bearcat
quote:
Was Troy Aikman overrated?
Maybe a little. Seems like most would have him being a good QB that benefitted from having a great team around him. But even with great weapons you still have to deliver the ball, and he did that well enough to win three chips. So it seems like most people likely have him properly rated.
ETA: As a TV announcer? Most definitely.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 8:23 am
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:19 am to burger bearcat
Aikman was basically the head coach of the Cowboys third Super Bowl win due to Barry Switzer’s incompetence. Not overrated.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:31 am to burger bearcat
Yes...Both Him and Steve Young.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:38 am to burger bearcat
Interceptions don't get you benched like they do nowadays because you didn't have these spread concepts every team runs that get guys wide open.
Aikman is simultaneous a great QB in his time but also a bit overrated.
You could say this about Joe Montana minus the RB part, but he didn't have scrubs. And his WR was a lot better than Aikman's.
Aikman is simultaneous a great QB in his time but also a bit overrated.
quote:
Also had a HOF WR, all time rushhing leader, a HOF TE, and multiple All-Pros on his line.
You could say this about Joe Montana minus the RB part, but he didn't have scrubs. And his WR was a lot better than Aikman's.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 8:39 am
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:51 am to burger bearcat
I don't see anyone saying he's near the top of the list. I think he's rated about where he should be. He won 3 superbowls but he couldn't carry a team deep in the playoffs alone like Elway or Rodgers.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:52 am to burger bearcat
A little.
Very good game manager on teams that were among the most loaded with talent in NFL history
Very good game manager on teams that were among the most loaded with talent in NFL history
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:56 am to cheobode
To be fair, TD numbers being down is fine because they had an elite running game to pound it in. But everything else is kinda eh. Elite game manager.
Just for comparison sake of his 6 pro bowl seasons:
1991 - 2nd in completion %, 5th in YPG, 4th in YPA, 22nd in TD%; this is the unique outlier but elite run game in the redzone fixes a lot of TD woes.
1992 - 5th in completion%, 6th in YPG, 9th in YPA, 5th in TD%, 3rd in passer rating
- Earned
1993 - 1st in completion%, 4th in YPG, 2nd in YPA, 11th in TD%, 2nd in passer rating
- Earned
1994 - 2nd in completion%, 16th in YPG, 2nd in YPA, 16th in TD%, 6th in passer rating
- Not earned
1995 - 2nd in completion%, 17th in YPG, 4th in YPA, 21st in TD%, 3rd in passer rating
- Not earned
1996 - 2nd in completion%, 14th in YPG, 15th in YPA, 29th in TD%, 12th in passer rating
- not earned
Just for comparison sake of his 6 pro bowl seasons:
1991 - 2nd in completion %, 5th in YPG, 4th in YPA, 22nd in TD%; this is the unique outlier but elite run game in the redzone fixes a lot of TD woes.
1992 - 5th in completion%, 6th in YPG, 9th in YPA, 5th in TD%, 3rd in passer rating
- Earned
1993 - 1st in completion%, 4th in YPG, 2nd in YPA, 11th in TD%, 2nd in passer rating
- Earned
1994 - 2nd in completion%, 16th in YPG, 2nd in YPA, 16th in TD%, 6th in passer rating
- Not earned
1995 - 2nd in completion%, 17th in YPG, 4th in YPA, 21st in TD%, 3rd in passer rating
- Not earned
1996 - 2nd in completion%, 14th in YPG, 15th in YPA, 29th in TD%, 12th in passer rating
- not earned
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:27 am to pingman
quote:
Yes...Both Him and Steve Young.
Steve Young was definitely not overrated. However, Aikman is in the category with Namath and Bradshaw. Bradshaw was on a loaded team as an average QB same as Aikman. Namath is in there just because he called his shot as a huge underdog and won the game.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:50 am to Tubedog13
Who’s the better qb..
Bart Starr or Troy Aikman?????
Bart Starr or Troy Aikman?????
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:56 am to burger bearcat
Overrated a bit as QB, but very much underrated as far as the leader of the organization. He was an equal part of the three headed leadership trio of Jimmy, Jerry, and Troy. When Jimmy left Troy took over that leadership that Barry never really grasped. There have been similarly talented cowboys teams since that haven’t had near the success. I think a good part of that is the off the field stuff Troy brought.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:57 am to burger bearcat
As a player yes.
As a leader I dont think so. That was a lot of personality to corral.
As a leader I dont think so. That was a lot of personality to corral.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 10:03 am to burger bearcat
He was very underrated as a leader.
But as a quarterback he was nothing special.
But as a quarterback he was nothing special.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 10:05 am to burger bearcat
Aikman was QB in a vertical passing game. He threw the ball down field, so naturally his Int ratio would be higher. But the guy won 3 super bowls. If Steve Young is not overrated (made a career of slants to elite WR) then neither is Troy Aikman.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 10:07 am
Posted on 10/26/23 at 10:08 am to burger bearcat
No
He's an America Hero
He also personally won more Super Bowls than your franchise has in it's history.
we dem boys
He's an America Hero
He also personally won more Super Bowls than your franchise has in it's history.
we dem boys
Posted on 10/26/23 at 10:12 am to burger bearcat
Even at the time people kind of questioned him, he was never mentioned as one of the 2 or 3 best QBs in football and it was understood even when he was still playing that he was only going to make the hall because of team accomplishments.
So I would say no he’s properly rated and always has been.
So I would say no he’s properly rated and always has been.
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