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re: Public high schools should refuse to play private schools
Posted on 8/31/09 at 12:31 pm to Rex
Posted on 8/31/09 at 12:31 pm to Rex
quote:
It's more than a "bit" unfair. It's grossly unfair.
really? so people that are willing to pay after tax dollars for their kids to go to private school create a grossly unfair situation for people who go to school for free?
You know what is really grossly unfair? The talented athletes stuck in under performing programs and playing for shitty washed up coaches that treat them like a piece of meat. I don't think people wanting what is best for their kids is "grossly unfair at all."
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Posted on 8/31/09 at 12:37 pm to BraveTiger225
South Carolina doesn't allow private schools to compete in the public school playoffs.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 12:39 pm to Rex
quote:
South Carolina doesn't allow private schools to compete in the public school playoffs.
But do they play against each other during the regular season?
Posted on 8/31/09 at 12:41 pm to Rex
And South Carolina has been pretty much verified as the armpit of the US. 
Just kidding.
But I think that it's the budget thing that causes them to play together in many cases.
And I still say that if a school wants to play up for competitive purposes, let them.
Just kidding.
But I think that it's the budget thing that causes them to play together in many cases.
And I still say that if a school wants to play up for competitive purposes, let them.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 12:44 pm to Rex
South Carolina doesn't allow private schools to compete in the public school playoffs.
yeah... we wanna be like south carolina....
how many conference titles from that state in the past 30 years?
yeah... we wanna be like south carolina....
how many conference titles from that state in the past 30 years?
Posted on 8/31/09 at 12:50 pm to Rex
quote:
South Carolina doesn't allow private schools to compete in the public school playoffs.
so what? how many private schools in SC have the history or political clout of the Catholic Schools in LA?
and if there is any advantage in private vs public it is in the COACHING because private schools can easily fire an under performing coach, but it is very difficult to get rid of a public school coach.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 12:57 pm to Rex
Private schools in Alabama are forced to play up. each student day for a private school is counted as 1.87 student days(I think). It's some random formula making all private schools to play up at least one division from the actual enrollment.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 12:57 pm to supatigah
quote:
really? so people that are willing to pay after tax dollars for their kids to go to private school create a grossly unfair situation for people who go to school for free?
If public schools can't recruit, yes, yes it does create an unfair situation.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:01 pm to BuckeyeFan87
quote:
If public schools can't recruit
Yeah, well, that's the thing. They DO recruit. Anyone who disagrees is either lying or naive.
I personally know people who have either physically moved to a district or faked residency in a district for football purposes.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:04 pm to Sophandros
If they're not allowed to openly do it, it's an unfair advantage.
I know at my HS we had a kid transfer over from a rival school because he couldn't stand the coach. Still though he wasn't recruited by the school.
Also had a couple kids leave our school(basketball players), but only because they knew they wouldn't play and decided to go somewhere they knew they would.
I know at my HS we had a kid transfer over from a rival school because he couldn't stand the coach. Still though he wasn't recruited by the school.
Also had a couple kids leave our school(basketball players), but only because they knew they wouldn't play and decided to go somewhere they knew they would.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:04 pm to BuckeyeFan87
quote:
If public schools can't recruit,
MYTH public schools in Louisiana are often times WORSE than private schools about illegal recruiting because they don't have tuition to worry about and it is easy to change your residence when you live in rental housing.
quote:
yes, yes it does create an unfair situation.
another MYTH parents send their kids to the school that they want to send them too. if they choose to pay after tax dollars to send them to a private school that is their business.
and by the way, only shitty schools and schools with new coaches actually "recruit." Proven coaches at private and public schools don't have to recruit because people in their area already know who they are and what they are about. if you really want to complain about recruiting then you would have to ban parents talking to other parents and that will never happen. the overwhelming majority of recruiting that goes on in public and private schools is done by PARENTS
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:05 pm to BuckeyeFan87
quote:
If they're not allowed to openly do it, it's an unfair advantage.
It's pretty open.
I know that you midwesterners are naive, but damn.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:07 pm to Sophandros
quote:
It's pretty open.
I know that you midwesterners are naive, but damn.
Not nearly open enough, or we would have won state at least once when Jamar Butler was at our school. Should/would have been easy as fock to get surrounding players around him.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:10 pm to Sophandros
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I know that you midwesterners are naive, but damn.
the LHSAA is quite unique in what routinely takes place here
and they don't have the sheer numbers of private schools because they didn't see the white flight of the 60s from the integrated school systems that we saw in the south. A lot of the Catholic schools are >50yrs old in Louisiana, but the majority of private schools are <50yrs old in Louisiana.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:11 pm to supatigah
Not just LA, but throughout the South. Many of the "Christian" schools in the South that popped up in the late 60s and early 70s did so because those great Christians didn't want their kids in class with coloreds.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:12 pm to BuckeyeFan87
Do all states share a similar transfer rule too?
What's LA's?
(FWIW, Ohio's...)
What's LA's?
(FWIW, Ohio's...)
quote:
You may attend any public or non-public high
school in which you are accepted when you enter
high school (grade 9) from a 7th-8th grade school.
Eligibility at that school is established by:
1. Participating in a contest (scrimmage, preview
or regular season game) prior to the first day of
school, or
2. Attending the first day of school at any high
school.
Once you establish eligibility at a high school, a
transfer to a different high school will mean you
will be ineligible for athletics for one year
from the date of enrollment in the new
school.
œ There are eight (8) exceptions to this regulation.
To see if you qualify for an exception, you and
your parents should arrange a meeting with
your principal or athletic administrator.
œ If your parent or legal guardian lives outside of
Ohio, you are ineligible unless one of the four (4)
exceptions to the regulation is met. These exceptions
to the out-of-state residency rules are
found in Bylaw 4-6 at www.ohsaa.org. Note:
Changing custody to a person in Ohio will not
provide eligibility to a student whose parents
live in another state.
œ If additional questions concerning these regulations
remain, school principals or athletic
administrators should contact the OHSAA.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:12 pm to Sophandros
quote:
Not just LA, but throughout the South. Many of the "Christian" schools in the South that popped up in the late 60s and early 70s did so because those great Christians didn't want their kids in class with coloreds.
aka John Curtis Christian School
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:14 pm to Sophandros
quote:
Not just LA, but throughout the South. Many of the "Christian" schools in the South that popped up in the late 60s and early 70s did so because those great Christians didn't want their kids in class with coloreds.
A lot of those de-seg private schools in my neck of the woods have since closed down, but I think there are still a bunch in North LA, and a few others near Baton Rouge, most of them still play in MPSA.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:22 pm to ProjectP2294
Central Private, Silliman, Oak Forest (Amite), Ben's Ford (Bogalusa), Bowling Green (Franklinton) and there are at least a dozen other LA schools that play in MPSA.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:22 pm to Rex
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When St. Thomas Aquinas of Florida smashed Upper Arlington of Ohio 52-7 on Saturday (and it would have been a lot worse if the starters hadn't been pulled early), at least four players who played significant roles on the winning side were at different high schools last year.
Why public schools willingly set themselves up as punching bags for teams with such an unfair competitive advantage is beyond me.
FWIW, the next day, a nationally unranked public Ohio school beat a private school ranked #29 (ESPN) in the country out of southern California by two TDs (and had the ball at the two yard line when the game ended, and could have called a TO or no huddled if they really wanted to put another one in).
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