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re: Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe removed from MLB permanently ineligible list; eligible for HOF
Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:47 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:47 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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So what's the reasoning here?
I honestly believe it was due to Trump. Manfred met with him last month where the topic of Rose came up and then the ban gets overturned within 30 days of that meeting. I don't think that's a coincidence.
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:50 pm to volfan30
That's awesome.
There's not a chance in hell any of the self righteous nerds on the HOF committee vote for them.
There's not a chance in hell any of the self righteous nerds on the HOF committee vote for them.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:51 pm to Madking
Jury nullification by fans.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:53 pm to Tiger1242
The problem is people look at this through a modern prism and get their backs up when they think "someone who didn't know any better" was "taken advantage of by sharpies."
That wasn't the case here.
But it's over with. Maybe after 100 years it's time.
That wasn't the case here.
But it's over with. Maybe after 100 years it's time.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:03 pm to Bench McElroy
This is why I think Trump got involved. A very good, very balanced, very fair biography of Pete came out last year. Pete cooperated with it, gave his blessings to it, sat down for interviews with the author, and again the results are probably the definitive Pete Rose biography. If you are a Rose fan and haven't read it, you should.
In this book, the author presented the results of a survey of how Americans view Pete. Those results show that only one demographic in this country ... one ... has a positive view of Pete. That demographic is conservative white men.
So it should not be surprising that Trump got involved given the fact that his base seems to love Pete.
Downvote away, I'm just reporting what the numbers in that survey said.
In this book, the author presented the results of a survey of how Americans view Pete. Those results show that only one demographic in this country ... one ... has a positive view of Pete. That demographic is conservative white men.
So it should not be surprising that Trump got involved given the fact that his base seems to love Pete.
Downvote away, I'm just reporting what the numbers in that survey said.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:05 pm to volfan30
Embarrassing that they waited until these guys were dead.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:06 pm to SingleMalt1973
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the Baseball Writers
These are the people who bring you the concept of the “first ballot hall of famer”, which is the dumbest concept in sports.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:06 pm to volfan30
Should have just left it alone.
Pointless now, and comes off as a weak attempt to gain some cheap goodwill.
Pointless now, and comes off as a weak attempt to gain some cheap goodwill.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:08 pm to Indefatigable
Again, the writers will not be voting on these selections for the Hall of Fame. They will be voted on by one of the Veterans Committees which include former players, managers, team executives and I think some media people are involved.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:12 pm to InkStainedWretch
Ok.
The concept of “first ballot HOFer” is still retarded as hell. You either had a HOF career, or you didn’t. The baseball writers are terrible, both at their actual jobs and in HOF voting
The concept of “first ballot HOFer” is still retarded as hell. You either had a HOF career, or you didn’t. The baseball writers are terrible, both at their actual jobs and in HOF voting
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:18 pm to Indefatigable
The whole thing is designed to where the Mount Rushmore faces get in first ballot and others get in along the way, which is what the people who own/run the Hall of Fame want. Unlike fans who argue the thing is getting watered down, the HoF people want a steady stream of new members in there. Back in the 1960s they were pissed off at the writers for not putting enough people in.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:19 pm to DalenSA
frick Pete Rose
There was only one person who kept Pete out of the Hall and he saw him in the mirror every day.
There was only one person who kept Pete out of the Hall and he saw him in the mirror every day.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:21 pm to volfan30
This should have happened a long time ago while Pete was still here to enjoy it.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:33 pm to volfan30
They are only doing this so Othani doesnt catch shite when his career finishes and people bring up his little gambling addition from a few months back.
I bet shite is about to hit the fan for Ohtani, the bookie, and Ippei Mizuhara
frick MLB for waiting until Pete Rose died
I bet shite is about to hit the fan for Ohtani, the bookie, and Ippei Mizuhara
frick MLB for waiting until Pete Rose died
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:35 pm to BZ504
Oh boo hoo for Pete Rose. Plenty of other deserving players weren't invited into the Hall until after death, and they didn't stained the game like he did.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:36 pm to volfan30
At least it'll be a little less absurd when I turn on FanDuel sports network to watch the Reds.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:39 pm to volfan30
Talk about dancing on a man's grave.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:43 pm to InkStainedWretch
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The whole thing is designed to where the Mount Rushmore faces get in first ballot
There are four faces on MT Rushmore. What is possibly the purpose of that? It’s totally arbitrary
quote:
Unlike fans who argue the thing is getting watered down, the HoF people want a steady stream of new members in there.
Then maybe the writers should vote hall of famer’s into the hall instead of the absurdly nonsensical explanation that someone isn’t a “first ballot” hall of famer.
The writers and the hall will continue to have no credibility until Clemens, Bonds, etc are in anyway. That era of athletes is the only reason the MLB didn’t die altogether after the strike.
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:44 pm to Indefatigable
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Embarrassing that they waited until these guys were dead.
Jackson's been dead for almost 74 years.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:52 pm to Wayne Campbell
one of my prized possessions was my late grandfathers history of baseball book from the 30s....there was a great chapter on the player that Shoeless Joe Jackson was from his breakout in Cleveland (hits leader) to the play in th field to the scandal. Always had a soft spot for him.
It will be interesting to see what happens
It will be interesting to see what happens
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