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re: Oregon signed a 5 star QB...who has decided to go ahead and transfer already

Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:03 pm to
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I think he was a last day flip from Cal.

He never should have flipped. Prob got offered some cash and regretted it

So there's a lot of gossip over what happened here. The understanding was that it wasn't 50-50 or 60-40 Cal over Oregon, he was very solidly Cal until the last second, and the reason for his flip is hotly debated among insiders at Cal who have some knowledge of last-minute conversations.

With entrenched starter Mendoza now transferring to Indiana, Cal has a desperate need for a starting QB. So we'll see if he's headed straight back to Cal or if he's really going to keep looking around.

Cal's offensive scheme / coaching will be coming from Bryan Harsin and Nick Rolovich. Should he put his faith in these guys? Another consideration is that Cal's OL has been very weak for years. They haven't done a good job recruiting here.
Posted by mdomingue
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:49 pm to
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Would be the best thing for the sport, unfortunately the Supreme Court has already said that player movement can’t be restricted. Only thing that will fix the current mess is making players employees and having them sign multi-year contracts


I think you are right. The rulings on most of these related issues involve antitrust issues and the Sherman Act. So if the NCAA or the SEC or a group of colleges agree to limit the playing time of transfers that would be considered an antitrust violation. At least that is what my nonlawyer brain thinks the situation is.

The solution will either be contracts or antitrust exemption granted by Congress (which I thought they already had but apparently not).
Posted by nola tiger lsu
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:55 pm to
Ohio State broke the program.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:55 pm to
1. Anyone who says the Supreme Court was “wrong,” get back to me on how you plan to get them to see the error of their ways and do an about face.

2. I asked this on the Alabama board, given that players can bug out if they don’t get their chance right away instead of having to wait for their chance, is there any point to programs trying to assemble a room full of 5-star quarterbacks? There aren’t enough footballs for everyone.
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:16 pm to
Didn’t even unpack his bags
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:24 pm to
Can he play safety?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13013 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:33 pm to
The sitting a year rule was not a full ruling I thought. It was put in as a stay and then the NCAA said screw it and just lifted it.

Reality is that if you will not allow any accountability for the players, then just end the charade and stop college athletics as a scholarship or tied to universities. Let pro leagues fund their own farm systems and focus universities on academics again.

ESPN, ADs, coaches and players collectively in their selfishness/greed have ruined the entire system.

Why should my alma maters need to cater to these spoiled brats at all levels. End it all, fire all the ADs and AD employees and go back to club sports.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:41 pm to
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The solution will either be contracts or antitrust exemption granted by Congress


This is what is needed if there is going to be any sanity.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 4:07 pm to
I would not hold your breath waiting for one, no one save Tommy Tuberville who is not exactly a disinterested party cares about it, and Congress has been regretting giving MLB one for 100 years. You will note they haven’t given any more for sports.

This isn’t a liberal/conservative thing either, I’ll remind you that the main Supreme Court decision in this was 9-0 and that noted Trotskyite Brett Kavanaugh signaled that he was ready to give the players even more.

This will eventually sort itself out and reach an equilibrium. Fans just need to stop driving themselves crazy thinking some knight is going to ride in on a white horse and restore what they think should be the proper order of things. What was is not coming back.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24669 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 4:09 pm to
Follow the money baby!
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
7990 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 4:13 pm to
Hard to support players when they do shite like this. At least the coaches have 'buyouts'.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
60991 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 4:25 pm to
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Damn Oregon won if that’s the case. Would be hard to win with a QB this dumb and delusional.


You say that but... looking back... as much as I hate the very idea of it... I'm pretty sure most Aggies and even Sumlin himself would admit we should have let Kyler Murray be the starter over Kyle Allen from day 1 even though he clearly was not ready and flat out did not deserve to take that job right away.

What's funny about it is Kyle Allen was exactly the same way and was looking to transfer out when Kenny Hill beat him out. He only stayed b/c Hill imploded by mid season thinking he could perform at a high level while partying like Johnny Football.

Still amazes me that Sumlin had two NFL QBs at the same time (Allen is a career backup but still) and somehow chased both of them off in the same week b/c he wasn't willing to commit to one of them as the starter.
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 4:32 pm to
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Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 4:36 pm to
Sadly congress will F it up.
Posted by YNWA
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 4:46 pm to
If these guys are getting paid they need to sign a contract like any other professional athlete
Posted by redfish99
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:10 pm to
Utah or BYU LOCK…..
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:11 pm to
Dallas flipped due to family reasons
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:29 pm to
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2. I asked this on the Alabama board, given that players can bug out if they don’t get their chance right away instead of having to wait for their chance, is there any point to programs trying to assemble a room full of 5-star quarterbacks? There aren’t enough footballs for everyone.


If I’m a premier program I’m honestly not going to devote a ton to scouting and finding HS qbs. There will be a plethora of guys who’ve proven they can play college qb looking to transfer every single year.


The best qbs each year are typically on their 2nd or even 3rd teams
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You can say that again
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:36 pm to

The Cal QB room is not stacked. The only viable starter just left, so JKS will be QB1 by the end of Spring ball.

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